February 22, 20242 yr 2 hours ago, guenseli said: As far as I understand, PTT needs a very small amount of transistion time. The included amount should last for years. I've always thought PTT meant using your own voice - am I wrong? In the video linked above, I cannot see any option for using key commands in interacting with ATC. 7950X3D | RTX 4090 | 64GB DDR5
February 22, 20242 yr 19 minutes ago, Cpt_Piett said: I've always thought PTT meant using your own voice - am I wrong? In the video linked above, I cannot see any option for using key commands in interacting with ATC. I assume that PTT (Push-To-Talk) requires a little Transmission Time is because, it transmits whatever you say in your mic, to their servers. It will then be 'deciphered' and the reply is then sent back to the application to be read-back to you. But instead of using one of the AI voices to generate the read-back, it then uses the 'Offline Voices' to generate the read-back locally on your computer. If you don't use PTT, there's NO Transmission Time, as the whole procedure is generated locally, as it's text-and-click-based. That's the way I understand it, anyway. Best regards,--Anders Bermann-- ____________________Scandinavian VAPilot-ID: SAS2471
February 22, 20242 yr 11 minutes ago, anden145 said: If you don't use PTT, there's NO Transmission Time, as the whole procedure is generated locally, as it's text-and-click-based. Thanks, this makes sense. Still somewhat confused as I don't see any option in the interface for not using PTT i.e. just using key commands (like e.g. FSHud). Edited February 22, 20242 yr by Cpt_Piett 7950X3D | RTX 4090 | 64GB DDR5
February 22, 20242 yr 25 minutes ago, Cpt_Piett said: Still somewhat confused as I don't see any option in the interface for not using PTT i.e. just using key commands (like e.g. FSHud). Quote Captain: We can easily map keys to each action item available in the action box. That can include joystick, keyboard etc. Right now I don't have it like that since I assume if you have the window up you don't mind clicking on it, and if you don't you're speaking to it, meaning you don't need keys. If there is a demand to map keys to the action options I can add it easily. AMD Ryzen 5800X3D; MSI RTX 3080 Ti ; 32GB Corsair 3200 MHz; ASUS VG35VQ 35" (3440 x 1440) Fulcrum One yoke; Thrustmaster TCA Captain Pack Airbus edition; MFG Crosswind rudder pedals; miniCockpit FCU; CPFlight MCP 737; Logitech FIP x3; TrackIR MSFS; Fenix A320; A2A PA-24; HPG H145; PMDG 737-600; AIG; RealTraffic; PSXTraffic; FSiPanel; REX AccuSeason Adv; FSDT GSX Pro; FS2Crew RAAS Pro; FS-ATC Chatter
February 22, 20242 yr 4 hours ago, abrams_tank said: Oh, ok. If the PTT uses up very little transmission time and it can last for years, I think that is fair. I just didn't see this with their pricing scheme, it's a very confusing for me. think might explain it better I7-8700k,Corsair h1101 cooler ,Asus Strix Gaming Intel Z370 S11 motherboard, Corsair 32gb ramDD4,, gtx 1080ti Card, RM850 power supply Peter kelberg
February 22, 20242 yr 8 minutes ago, pete_auau said: think might explain it better I just watched this, $95 Canadian for just the software and what is basically a subscription after, I think I will pass Richard i7-12700K | Noctua NH-D15S Black Version | MSI Pro Z690 - A | 32 GB DDR4 3600 | Gigabyte Gaming OC 4090 | 1TB WD Blue NMVe (MSFS 2020) | 500 GB WD Black Gen 4 NVMe | 4TB WD Black Conventional | Fractal Design Torrent Case | Seasonic 1000W Gold Plus PSU | Thrustmaster Boeing Yoke | Honeycomb Throttle | Airbus Side Stick | Virpil Rudder Pedals | Sony X90K 55 Inch TV |
February 22, 20242 yr Don't know how people say this is a subscription when there's no monthly payment and you pay what you use.. Also they don't have to pay anything more if they only use the offline voices...
February 22, 20242 yr 1 hour ago, Bond said: Don't know how people say this is a subscription when there's no monthly payment and you pay what you use.. I said it is basically a subscription, You don't think people will try the premium voices and find them somehow way better than the free ones and then end up paying extra each month for the premium voices ... Sure sounds like a kinda subscription to me lol Richard i7-12700K | Noctua NH-D15S Black Version | MSI Pro Z690 - A | 32 GB DDR4 3600 | Gigabyte Gaming OC 4090 | 1TB WD Blue NMVe (MSFS 2020) | 500 GB WD Black Gen 4 NVMe | 4TB WD Black Conventional | Fractal Design Torrent Case | Seasonic 1000W Gold Plus PSU | Thrustmaster Boeing Yoke | Honeycomb Throttle | Airbus Side Stick | Virpil Rudder Pedals | Sony X90K 55 Inch TV |
February 22, 20242 yr Commercial Member 11 minutes ago, RJC68 said: Sure sounds like a kinda subscription to me lol Not a subscription, because if you don't use online voices, there is no recurring payment. It's not like Netflx, where you pay every month, regardless of seeing movies or not. Is more like Pay as you Go. Edited February 22, 20242 yr by virtuali Umberto Colapicchioni http://www.fsdreamteam.com FSDT on Facebook
February 22, 20242 yr 6 minutes ago, virtuali said: Not a subscription, because if you don't use online voices, there is no recurring payment. It's not like Netflx, where you pay every month, regardless of seeing movies or not. Is more like Pay as you Go. You missed the point in my reply, I fully understand the free voices require no further investment but there is a good chance people will try the premium voice packs and find them way better and then get sucked in to paying for them each month Richard i7-12700K | Noctua NH-D15S Black Version | MSI Pro Z690 - A | 32 GB DDR4 3600 | Gigabyte Gaming OC 4090 | 1TB WD Blue NMVe (MSFS 2020) | 500 GB WD Black Gen 4 NVMe | 4TB WD Black Conventional | Fractal Design Torrent Case | Seasonic 1000W Gold Plus PSU | Thrustmaster Boeing Yoke | Honeycomb Throttle | Airbus Side Stick | Virpil Rudder Pedals | Sony X90K 55 Inch TV |
February 22, 20242 yr 8 minutes ago, RJC68 said: You missed the point in my reply, I fully understand the free voices require no further investment but there is a good chance people will try the premium voice packs and find them way better and then get sucked in to paying for them each month Again, they don't pay them each month. It'll depend on their usage, as you know.................
February 22, 20242 yr 1 minute ago, Bond said: Again, they don't pay them each month. It'll depend on their usage, as you know................. Again, if they use them regularly they could end up paying for them the next month and the month after .................................. Richard i7-12700K | Noctua NH-D15S Black Version | MSI Pro Z690 - A | 32 GB DDR4 3600 | Gigabyte Gaming OC 4090 | 1TB WD Blue NMVe (MSFS 2020) | 500 GB WD Black Gen 4 NVMe | 4TB WD Black Conventional | Fractal Design Torrent Case | Seasonic 1000W Gold Plus PSU | Thrustmaster Boeing Yoke | Honeycomb Throttle | Airbus Side Stick | Virpil Rudder Pedals | Sony X90K 55 Inch TV |
February 22, 20242 yr 14 minutes ago, RJC68 said: Again, if they use them regularly they could end up paying for them the next month and the month after .................................. If they don't use it, or use it and don't spend all credits, they don't pay more. So no subscription.............................. Edited February 22, 20242 yr by Bond
February 22, 20242 yr 19 minutes ago, RJC68 said: Again, if they use them regularly they could end up paying for them the next month and the month after Or each week ... depends how much they use it. But it is similar to icecream, whiskey, chocolate, etc. Guenter Steiner -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Betatester for: A2A, LORBY, FSR-Pillow Tester --------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
February 22, 20242 yr And for the basic voice, the math is 10 cents a flight which folks seem to be missing. Guessing I pay more for Navigraph, which I’d never fly without.
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