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Frame generation for all RTX cards

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2 hours ago, iFlySimX said:

Does this work best with TAA or DLSS?

In my 1080p and 3060Ti, I find TAA is better. Even with the higher framerate, DLSS display ghosting is not solved. That's an Issue I don't have with TAA.

Yes, I tried FG and I loved the results. However, I still need to tune the sim: with no frame limiter at all, I get some pauses. I find RTSS frame limiter (using Noel's method) works, but I need to find a new sweet spot. I've recently added FSHud, and that hammered my CPU like no otther.

I have to forego VRR because of the other sims I have, and the fact that, using DP, my monitor does not like running at 30 Hz. Using HDMI, 30 FPS (in a 120 Hz monitor) feels smoother, but I lose VRR. I'll keep trying tonight.

But now I understand why all the fuss with FG. Looks promising 😁

 

Best regards,
Luis Hernández 20px-Flag_of_Colombia.svg.png20px-Flag_of_Argentina.svg.png

Main rig: self built, AMD Ryzen 7 5700X3D (with SMT off and CO -50 mV), 2x16 GB DDR4-3200 RAM, Nvidia RTX 5060Ti 16GB, 256 GB M.2 SSD (OS+apps) + 2x1 TB SATA III SSD (sims) + 1 TB 7200 rpm HDD (storage), ID-Cooling SE-224-XTS air cooler, Viewsonic VX2458-MHD 1920x1080@120-144 Hz (G-sync compatible), Windows 11. Running P3D v5.4 (with v4.5 scenery objects as an additional library, just in case), FSX-SE, MSFS2020, MSFS2024 and even FS9! Lossless Scaling for all my sims. What a godsend...

Mobile rig: ASUS Zenbook UM425QA (AMD Ryzen 7 5800H APU @3.2 GHz and boost disabled, 1 TB M.2 SSD, 16 GB RAM, Windows 11 Pro). Running FS9 there .

VKB Gladiator NXT Premium Left + GNX THQ as primary controllers. Xbox Series X|S wireless controller as standby/mobile.

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  • Really? It's night and day difference. I'm testing the mod right now, on my "old" 3090, and I get a steady 60 fps, with PMDG 737-800, parked at FSDT KORD, at 5120x1440 32:9, I barely hit 40 befor

  • I'm testing this right now and my mind is blown.  I now understand why all the hype about FG.  3080ti, 4K, mostly high/ultra settings and have been pegged at 60FPS on first test flight in the Fenix. 

  • I was one of the people who basically ordered an RTX 4000 series card only because of Frame Generation. And FG is really impressive.  Now I'm glad everyone gets to participate in that experience. 

1 hour ago, Greazer said:

Ok thanks - found the Xbox App. But I will plan on moving the install after I get more space with a larger SSD!

That's not needed... I know it says you need like 175GB on your harddrive, but it actually only uses 2,5GB or something.

 

Can somebody explain this message i get:

https://ibb.co/gZFNfF5

I have 2060 Super graphic card

I've enabled HAGPUS, disabled v-sync in msfs and enabled it in Nvidia ctrl panel and carefully followed all the installing procedures..

PS It's not overheating! It's not overclocked! The driver is the latest.

Edited by Bartul

1 hour ago, Greazer said:

Ok thanks - found the Xbox App. But I will plan on moving the install after I get more space with a larger SSD!

If you move it to a different folder on the same drive, it will not take up any additional space.

Just create a C:\MSFS folder and move it there.

Edited by MDFlier

i9-10850K, ASUS TUF GAMING Z490-PLUS (WI-FI), 32GB G.SKILL DDR4-3603 / PC4-28800, GIGABYTE RTX5080 16GB WF OC 3 FAN running 3440x1440 

 

5 hours ago, Virtpilot said:

Okay, had a short test flight.... As i was taxiing to the runway I was in heaven... Best and most fluid performance I have ever seen. Few minutes into the flight I had the worst stutters I have ever seen.  They lasted until the arrival gate. Terrible. I´m on RTX 2060 super, TAA, DX12 and adaptive lod in use. Maybe not my cup of tea.... Sad.

You ran out of GPU RAM.
Not much you can do about that, unfortunately. You could lower your settings or your resulution, though...

Edited by Ojisan_alpha
typo

10 hours ago, Greazer said:

That's interesting. Is it really under WindowsApps your install?

Nope, default is here:

C:\XboxGames\Microsoft Flight Simulator\Content

Noel

System:  9900X3D Noctua NH-D15 G2, MSI Pro 650-P WiFi, G.SKILL  64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000, WD NVMe 2Tb x 1, Sabrent NVMe 2Tb x 1, RTX 4090 FE, Corsair RM1000W PSU, Win11 Home, LG Ultra Curved Gsync Ultimate 3440x1440, Phanteks Enthoo Pro Case, TCA Boeing Edition Yoke & TQ, Cessna Trim Wheel, RTSS Framerate Limiter w/ Front Edge Sync.

Aircraft used in MSFS 2024:  Fenix A320,  Aerosoft CRJ, FBW, WT 787X, I-Fly 737 MAX 8, Citation Longitude.

 

2 hours ago, iFlySimX said:

Interesting how MS "Unlisted" the topic in their forums...

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Best regards,
Luis Hernández 20px-Flag_of_Colombia.svg.png20px-Flag_of_Argentina.svg.png

Main rig: self built, AMD Ryzen 7 5700X3D (with SMT off and CO -50 mV), 2x16 GB DDR4-3200 RAM, Nvidia RTX 5060Ti 16GB, 256 GB M.2 SSD (OS+apps) + 2x1 TB SATA III SSD (sims) + 1 TB 7200 rpm HDD (storage), ID-Cooling SE-224-XTS air cooler, Viewsonic VX2458-MHD 1920x1080@120-144 Hz (G-sync compatible), Windows 11. Running P3D v5.4 (with v4.5 scenery objects as an additional library, just in case), FSX-SE, MSFS2020, MSFS2024 and even FS9! Lossless Scaling for all my sims. What a godsend...

Mobile rig: ASUS Zenbook UM425QA (AMD Ryzen 7 5800H APU @3.2 GHz and boost disabled, 1 TB M.2 SSD, 16 GB RAM, Windows 11 Pro). Running FS9 there .

VKB Gladiator NXT Premium Left + GNX THQ as primary controllers. Xbox Series X|S wireless controller as standby/mobile.

Hey Noel, if you're trying this what adjustments, if any, are you making to your frame rate settings in RTSS in regards to keeping FRV down?

Ken

24 minutes ago, BaronKen said:

Hey Noel, if you're trying this what adjustments, if any, are you making to your frame rate settings in RTSS in regards to keeping FRV down?

Just starting myself last night pretty late.  I was not sure what role locking frames via NVCP mattered, so set Max Rate there at 1000, then used RTSS with its hotkeys to adjust rate and unlock outright.   I did a frame capture at 70fps and all was great except PMDG 738's HUD had artifact but everything else was fine.  So actual rate was 35, doubled to 70.  I ran a frame variance capture and it looked good, in terms of retaining excellent FTV.  TBH, it's pretty much as I thought because I've certainly run at 60FPS with my method and the difference is definitely there, but in no way trumps what came out of the method I use at half the frame rate, i.e. at 33-34FPS which is where I've been since this time last year, and which my hardware can deliver.  This being said, in order to keep the headroom I argue is worth keeping, I'll likely settle into a real frame rate of 30, doubled to 60 using the FSR mod.

Right now getting setup for test flight #2, I reset NVCP max to 60, and RTSS to 58, to see if anything happens w/ the HUD artifact.

I was happy I didn't jump to RTX 4000 series, though may when I rebuild, but mainly to pickup VRAM.

And, the artifact re the HUD I see now happens whenever zooming when the GSX menu, ATC window, World Map, etc are displaying, and this isn't good at all.  I'll play around with it and if this doesn't resolve will likely get rid of the mod and hopefully a better version will appear down the road.  This artifact isn't related to the RTSS settings as those are disabled now, i.e. frame rate limiter is off.

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Noel

System:  9900X3D Noctua NH-D15 G2, MSI Pro 650-P WiFi, G.SKILL  64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000, WD NVMe 2Tb x 1, Sabrent NVMe 2Tb x 1, RTX 4090 FE, Corsair RM1000W PSU, Win11 Home, LG Ultra Curved Gsync Ultimate 3440x1440, Phanteks Enthoo Pro Case, TCA Boeing Edition Yoke & TQ, Cessna Trim Wheel, RTSS Framerate Limiter w/ Front Edge Sync.

Aircraft used in MSFS 2024:  Fenix A320,  Aerosoft CRJ, FBW, WT 787X, I-Fly 737 MAX 8, Citation Longitude.

 

I was really happy with this hack until I found that I suffer from terrible shimmering in all glass cockpits, especially the 787, has anyone else seen this happening? 
 

Jack

16 minutes ago, jschaper said:

I was really happy with this hack until I found that I suffer from terrible shimmering in all glass cockpits, especially the 787, has anyone else seen this happening? 
 

Jack

I think it's a great start, but it's got issues for sure and I expect those will get addressed hopefully sooner than later.

Ok, here are two other problems.  I have a second screen out of the mainboard's video output port that I use while flying for other stuff, so it's not connected to my 3080Ti,  If I move the cursor to that 2nd screen which I do very often during flights, frame rate tanks on the main display and all smoothness is over.  Next, there is a subtle but very visible flicker as I pan left and right out the cockpit to the surrounding tarmac.  Too early to say as maybe there are solution but at this point this mod isn't ready for prime time quite yet.

Edited by Noel

Noel

System:  9900X3D Noctua NH-D15 G2, MSI Pro 650-P WiFi, G.SKILL  64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000, WD NVMe 2Tb x 1, Sabrent NVMe 2Tb x 1, RTX 4090 FE, Corsair RM1000W PSU, Win11 Home, LG Ultra Curved Gsync Ultimate 3440x1440, Phanteks Enthoo Pro Case, TCA Boeing Edition Yoke & TQ, Cessna Trim Wheel, RTSS Framerate Limiter w/ Front Edge Sync.

Aircraft used in MSFS 2024:  Fenix A320,  Aerosoft CRJ, FBW, WT 787X, I-Fly 737 MAX 8, Citation Longitude.

 

Thanks for the info Noel, appreciate the quick reply.

Ken

1 hour ago, jschaper said:

I was really happy with this hack until I found that I suffer from terrible shimmering in all glass cockpits, especially the 787, has anyone else seen this happening? 
 

Jack

not on the FBW, will try the Fenix next

EDIT: update, worked just fine. The Fenix. Flew EDDM LFBO without problems

Edited by DAD

Phil Leaven

i5 10600KF, 32 GB 3200 RAM, ASUS 4070 12GB EVO, Asus ROG Z490-H, 2 WD Black NVME for each Win11 (500GB) and MSFS (1TB), Rolling Cache 16GB, Photogrammetry always OFF, Live Weather and Live Traffic always ON, Res 2560x1440 on 27"

11 minutes ago, jschaper said:

I was really happy with this hack until I found that I suffer from terrible shimmering in all glass cockpits, especially the 787, has anyone else seen this happening? 
 

Jack

With DLSS set it to DLAA 😉 better quality with all the other settings in combination with DLSS...

To add that's with FG native 40XX

Edited by virtualstuff

 

André
 

So Nvidia's claim that only 40 series card are hardware equipped for FG to work was a scam, i'm not surprised, they are a shady company, I will never buy a Nvidia card again, I will probably upgrade to an 7900 XTX for MSFS 24.

BTW, are V-Sync necessary with a Free-Sync or G-Sync monitor with this mod?

System: I ASRock X670E | AMD 7800X3D | 64Gb DDR5 6000 | RTX 4090 | 2TB NVMe | Seasonic Vertex 1000W I LG Ultra Gear 34 UW I

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