December 27, 20232 yr 4 hours ago, St Mawgan said: TDS. Best piece of flight sim related software I think I ever bought. Had the PMS freeware for 6 months or so before going for TDS. Not really close. Freeware vs payware? The TDS version is excellent but you can't compare its only version (payware) vs the two different versions for the PMS version.... 7800+4090+64ram Just Flight RJ, 146 and F28, Piper Arrows ---A2A Aerostar and Comanche---Black Square Starship, Duke(s), TBM, Bonanza/BaronV2, KingAir---FSReborn FSR500---COWS Da42---FX P180, HJet & VJet---FlySimWare Chancellor and LearJet---FlightSimStudio EMB175 &P2006T---Fenix 320---PMDG DC6, 737(700+900), 777---C22J---Milviz Cessna 310 & Porter---SimWorksStudios Kodiak, PC12, Zenith & RV14---BigRadials Goose---IndiaFoxEcho MB3339+F35.
December 27, 20232 yr 4 hours ago, Sonosusto said: Not really close. Freeware vs payware? The TDS version is excellent but you can't compare its only version (payware) vs the two different versions for the PMS version.... I'm not comparing the two. My only experience of the PMS version is the free one. When it came to deciding which one to spend money on, I chose TDS. 9950X3D - X870E Aorus Master- TUF 5090 OC - 64GB DDR5 - 1500W HXi - Titan 360 RX LCD - 9100 Pro x 2 - LG 45GX950A - HOTAS Warthog with Ava Base
December 27, 20232 yr Author Thank you for your precious comments. I am seriously considering the TDS version. My only problem / fear is having to install a different version of the Garmin Simulator which can be incompatible with my ELITE v9 install that requires a very specific version of the simulator to be installed in order to go with it's Flight1 GNS / GTN instruments... Will investigate... Flying gliders since 1980 Flightsimming since 1992 AMD Ryzen 5600x, 32GB RAM, GPU Nvidia RTX 3060 Ti 8 GB, 1 TB and 500 GB nvme2 SSD drives, HP 27" 60Hz LED monitor @ 1920x1080, T16000, Hotas from old X52 Pro, Saitek Combat Rudder Pro (2010 model)
December 27, 20232 yr If you are a common flightsimmer go for PMS, if you are a reality purist and only fly in US go for TDS, simple as that. System: I ASRock X670E | AMD 7800X3D | 64Gb DDR5 6000 | RTX 4090 | 2TB NVMe | Seasonic Vertex 1000W I LG Ultra Gear 34 UW I
December 27, 20232 yr Commercial Member 1 hour ago, jcomm said: Thank you for your precious comments. I am seriously considering the TDS version. My only problem / fear is having to install a different version of the Garmin Simulator which can be incompatible with my ELITE v9 install that requires a very specific version of the simulator to be installed in order to go with it's Flight1 GNS / GTN instruments... Will investigate... Hello, To assist you in this decision, we recommend that you contact us via Discord/Support email/Other media channels prior to purchase, so we can walk you through installing the prerequisite and confirming correct functionality.
December 27, 20232 yr On 12/26/2023 at 10:17 AM, jcomm said: I would get your opinions on which is the best Garmin GTN option There is no such thing as the "best Garmin GTN option." There is only the best option relative to your needs and expectations I've owned every single piece of avionics that RealityXP ever made, I also owned the Flight1 version of the GTN. Still, I went for the one-year subscription for the PMS. Why? One simple answer: smooth integration of Navigraph charts. Boohoo, there I said it. Oh, no, who's that at my door? It's the Avsim-realpilots-realism-SWAT team coming to get me!!!!!!!!😬 Edited December 27, 20232 yr by Ricardo41
December 27, 20232 yr 7 hours ago, Ixoye said: If you are a common flightsimmer go for PMS, if you are a reality purist and only fly in US go for TDS, simple as that. The TDS has worldwide procedures but only US charts. You can use it anywhere you fly.
December 27, 20232 yr 7 hours ago, Ricardo41 said: There is no such thing as the "best Garmin GTN option." There is only the best option relative to your needs and expectations I've owned every single piece of avionics that RealityXP ever made, I also owned the Flight1 version of the GTN. Still, I went for the one-year subscription for the PMS. Why? One simple answer: smooth integration of Navigraph charts. Boohoo, there I said it. Oh, no, who's that at my door? It's the Avsim-realpilots-realism-SWAT team coming to get me!!!!!!!!😬 Why do people insist on these strawman arguments? The original poster said he values the most realistic unit. There is one option as far as that goes, the TDS. End of story. I just don’t understand why people have such an issue with that that they spend 4 pages trying to twist the argument around to make themselves superior. It’s bizarre frankly.
December 27, 20232 yr 27 minutes ago, mryan75 said: I just don’t understand why people have such an issue with that that they spend 4 pages trying to twist the argument around to make themselves superior. It’s bizarre frankly. I don't think anyone has tried to twist anything and I don't think anyone has a problem with it or has argued with it. I was the first person to reply in this thread and made clear which is the most accurate. Given that the thread is titled 'Which GTN' it would be handy, not just for the OP but for any future viewers of it, to have all pros and cons of both which brings me to my next point. What I find bizarre is making statements such as: "it’s a unit that looks like a GTN and is a catchall for every feature people suggested to the developer." And then when asked to list these features for people like me that do not know what they are you instead proceded to behave evasively and refused to share. I'm still none the wiser as to what these features are and so will any future reader be. If anyone else would care to clue me in on what they are I would be grateful. Or is that just someone twisting and argument to make themselves look superior? I'll be honest, I didn't even know there was an argument going on in this thread until now. But there we are. Edited December 27, 20232 yr by Jazz 5800X3D - Strix X570-E - 32GB 3600Mhz DDR4 - AMD RX 9070 XT- Samsung 980 Pro x2
December 27, 20232 yr Right now, in MSFS I'm still using the TDS implementation of the GTN750Xi, with the WT GNS530 as a backup if I need a GPS with current navdata. And of course any acft with the WT G1000/3000/5000 is already using the current data built into the sim database and updated via Navigraph. I download the full FAA D-TPP approach plate database every cycle, and I save them, so when the Garmin trainer updates to an AIRAC that's already a few cycles back, I always have a full set of the (US) approach plates on-hand that match that older AIRAC cycle. It's a 90% solution, but the fact that my flight planning software and the MSFS navaid/fix database are based on current data (via Navigraph) which seems to be evolving faster and faster is a growing potential limitation when using a trainer database that's over a year out-of-date. Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090 Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz, 3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090 Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus, TM TCA Officer Pack, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case
December 27, 20232 yr 2 hours ago, Jazz said: I don't think anyone has tried to twist anything and I don't think anyone has a problem with it or has argued with it. I was the first person to reply in this thread and made clear which is the most accurate. Given that the thread is titled 'Which GTN' it would be handy, not just for the OP but for any future viewers of it, to have all pros and cons of both which brings me to my next point. What I find bizarre is making statements such as: "it’s a unit that looks like a GTN and is a catchall for every feature people suggested to the developer." And then when asked to list these features for people like me that do not know what they are you instead proceded to behave evasively and refused to share. I'm still none the wiser as to what these features are and so will any future reader be. If anyone else would care to clue me in on what they are I would be grateful. Or is that just someone twisting and argument to make themselves look superior? I'll be honest, I didn't even know there was an argument going on in this thread until now. But there we are. Boy you just won't let this go, will you. He asked a specific question, he got a specific answer. Beyond that is this just bizarre obsession of a few people to just argue things not relevant to the original question. It's bizarre.
December 27, 20232 yr 4 minutes ago, mryan75 said: Boy you just won't let this go, will you. He asked a specific question, he got a specific answer. Beyond that is this just bizarre obsession of a few people to just argue things not relevant to the original question. It's bizarre. 🤨 Still won't tell me. Is there a secret handshake or something? Or is it just some sort of axe grinding? I've asked you a specifc question and had everything but an answer. Honestly not sure what to think anymore. 5800X3D - Strix X570-E - 32GB 3600Mhz DDR4 - AMD RX 9070 XT- Samsung 980 Pro x2
December 27, 20232 yr 3 minutes ago, Jazz said: 🤨 Still won't tell me. Is there a secret handshake or something? Or is it just some sort of axe grinding? I've asked you a specifc question and had everything but an answer. Honestly not sure what to think anymore. Blocked.
December 27, 20232 yr Just now, mryan75 said: Blocked. Well there's a surprise. F1 driver levels of chicanery. 5800X3D - Strix X570-E - 32GB 3600Mhz DDR4 - AMD RX 9070 XT- Samsung 980 Pro x2
December 27, 20232 yr Just now, mryan75 said: Blocked. Since I’m also considering one of these units, apart from the 3 axis autopilot, what other imaginary features does the PMS have?
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