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Easiest BlackSquare Trainer Aircraft for Pilotedge

Which is the Easiest BlackSquare Aircraft to Master? 19 members have voted

  1. 1. Which aircraft with its systems is easy to master? which one would you start off with

    • BlackSquare - Analog Bonanza
      63%
      12
    • BlackSquare - Analog Baron
      0%
      0
    • BlackSquare - Analog Caravan
      26%
      5
    • BlackSquare - Analog King Air
      0%
      0
    • BlackSquare - TBM 850
      10%
      2
    • Black Square - Velocity XL
      0%
      0

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Well the Bo would be the most simplistic.  

Though my favorite is the TBM and P Baron.

Probably soon to be superseded by the turbine Duke.

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Well. If your really just starting on pilot Edge, non of thèse planes would be my first choice.

It would be there comanche 250

After youve  got the bases down, I would then chose the TMB 850

Actually, now that I think about it, the bonanza is a good choice

 

Ron

Edited by Ron Lefebvre

Ron

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The Bonanza is a very good flyer for handling and the systems failures are limited. Seems like the biggest No-No most folks do is descend too quickly and shock cool the engine. Otherwise, it's not hard to keep it within limits.

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I voted for the Bonanza. However, none of these are training aircraft.

Someone's doing the Piper Tomahawk and that would be a good starter aircraft. The sim comes with Cessnas 152 and 172 and those would be best.  

Richard Chafey

 

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Yeah,

I am waiting for JustFlight's Piper Tomahawk.  That could be ideal.  I thought many flights schools train with Bonanza and Baron's these days? I could be completely wrong too.

Edited by Skywolf

I don't know about current flight schools. But, when I learned it was at a Piper dealership. The progression was Tomahawk, Archer, Arrow, Seneca and so on.

Richard Chafey

 

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MSFS 2020, DCS

 

The Bonanza.

But as per above. None of these are training aircraft.  A training aircraft will be a SSEA (Simple single engine aircraft). It will have a fixed pitch prop, fixed gear, etc, so there's less to do to keep the aircraft happy and flying.  If I were starting out of PilotEdge, I'd fly the Bagolu C172 mod, so you get the simplicity of the C172, but with nice additions like opening doors, etc.    I'd suggest the C152 but then you lose out on the convenience of an autopilot, while figuring what to say and do, with the ATC.

 

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2 hours ago, Skywolf said:

Yeah,

I am waiting for JustFlight's Piper Tomahawk.  That could be ideal.  I thought many flights schools train with Bonanza and Baron's these days? I could be completely wrong too.

I do remember a flight school in Farmington, New Mexico a lot of years ago with A36 Bonanzas. They started all students in Bonanzas then went up to Barons. However, I thought that was sort of an exception starting in retractable gear and a lot of horsepower. 

Keith Guillory

I think it terms of overall simplicity and flight dynamics, the Caravan is the clear winner.  The Bonanza is a somewhat easy plane to pre-flight and manage as well, but I give a nod to the Caravan for the flight dynamics.  The Caravan is not difficult at all to pilot and it provides a great view out the window.  No gear to have to remember to lower, icing protection, and great ceiling ops. 

The Baron is just as easy as the Bonanza, but it's two engines and has limited visibility.  Same for the King Air.  I love the King Air, but she's a handful.  The TBM is also rather easy to fly, but that's subjective, so I could see someone having trouble online with it.

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Can you maintain speed, altitude and heading? Can you climb or descent with constant vertical speed? Then it doesn't matter what you fly. All you need to train with Pilotedge is listen, read back and follow instructions 

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Well this is assuming you are not in the real world where cost of a/c rental is a consideration for nearly everyone but a multi-millionaire. A Baron? King Air? Be serious. Of these obviously the Bonanza, but really you would want a pA 28 or the Tomahawk (if you don't like high wing planes).

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