4 hours ago, CoolGunS said:

Ok, my 10 cents worth on all this.

Pilot2ATC - Not going to happen for me. I have too many bad experiences with the "ATC" falling over and suddenly going deaf.  If it doesn't suddenly go deaf after getting through the IFR clearance, it goes deaf halfway through the flight. The time spent getting the flght plan created in simbrief, loading up P2A, getting the aicraft started, runup, out to the runway etc and then only to encounter a deaf ATC is just too often and too annoying. Other days it worked fine but after countless emails back and forth with Dave, lots of 'special just for me BETA's"  I just gave up. If it doesn't work consistantly it is not on the table for me.  Kudos to Dave, he was always quick to reply, and one of the best support devs out there. But yeah, PASS.

BeyondATC - their platform is amazing in that it allows for speedy development of new features. Pricing is great. Traffic is coming and they have the lead Dev from FSLTL to help get that up and running quickly. Fast to respond to PTT is a plus and having to use a more stringent scripted approach to your voice comms is not actually a bad thing and you will get the hang of it pretty quickly. Definitely a contender with all that their ATC  and Entourage addons bring to the table. 

SayIntentions.AI - stunning, amazing voices and AI. Just WOW. Traffic is coming, the price has been reduced to a Netflix subscription. New features coming. The delays in the AI response are letting it down a little but then sometimes ATC in real life take their bloody time too. I suspect this will all be improved over time.

Then there is the white elephant in the room, Asobo. They have said that they will introduce an entirely new ATC. So who knows what that will bring everyone. Let's wait and see.

So for me personally it will be MS2024 and BeyondATC for the first 12 months. As the game matures I will be keeping a close eye on SayIntentions. Once that matures I will rethink it all and probably switch over to that, even if it is just for a change of immersion and an extra choice.

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Nice

Have you compared those with FSHUD v 2 alpha though?

Also Entourage seems to be a feature of SI not BATC-I have BATC and FSHUD and use both equally

Edited October 9, 20241 yr by jkeyeuk

Without a public beta release of VoxATC, BATC Experimental is the best. It does nice a nice job with both user ATC plus controlling and communicating with AI aircraft.

On 10/9/2024 at 2:29 PM, jabloomf1230 said:

Without a public beta release of VoxATC, BATC Experimental is the best. It does nice a nice job with both user ATC plus controlling and communicating with AI aircraft.

BATC works pretty well but I'm having issues with pauses right before there's a transmission either from controllers, traffic or auto response. If there's a lot of traffic it's really a performance killer.

On 10/9/2024 at 3:29 PM, jabloomf1230 said:

Without a public beta release of VoxATC, BATC Experimental is the best. It does nice a nice job with both user ATC plus controlling and communicating with AI aircraft.

I use BATC all the time now, and in the last week or two, they have had some small updates in the arrival procedures, which were it's weak point, and it is much, much better now. 

Edited November 8, 20241 yr by Bobsk8

20 minutes ago, mwilk said:

BATC works pretty well but I'm having issues with pauses right before there's a transmission either from controllers, traffic or auto response. If there's a lot of traffic it's really a performance killer.

I changed my arrivals and departure densities to a "4" and that seemed to do the trick for me.  Especially at larger busy airports like KORD.