April 13, 20242 yr I don't think anybody has a problem with a one-time purchase for $30. It is the $30 per month SayIntentions (and eventually also BATC if you want to have the premium voices) charges that is completely out of proportion with everything else we've known so far in flightsimulation. Edited April 13, 20242 yr by RALF9636
April 13, 20242 yr 5 minutes ago, RALF9636 said: I don't think anybody has a problem with a one-time purchase for $30. It is the $30 per month SayIntentions (and eventually also BATC if you want to have the premium voices) charges that is completely out of proportion with everything else we've known so far in flightsimulation. That's right. But in the end - as with anything else - it's about the price-performance-relationship. That said, performance has to be extremely high for SI for something that costs more per year than literally anything else that you ever paid for flightsimming. I mean it might even cost more than your GPU over 4 years. At the moment SI is still far away from that point, and I honestly don't even know what they would need to do to make it worth that cost. I mean being able to talk "normally" and have an interaction is great, but really how many times do you just "have a talk" with the ATC controller on an IFR flight? You might ask for weather here and there, ask for a direct-to or free speed, but none of this is really hard to script in a scripted ATC. For transparency: I'm a community mentor at the BATC discord. However, I do not get paid for it in any way.
April 13, 20242 yr 30 minutes ago, pete_auau said: its cheaper than most payware aircraft 🙂 Hey Pete, sure, but not if it has to be paid every month! HowardMSI Mag B650 Tomahawk MB, Ryzen7-7800X3D CPU@5ghz, Arctic AIO II 360 cooler, Nvidia RTX4090 GPU, 32gb DDR5@6000Mhz, SSD/2Tb+SSD/500Gb+OS, Corsair 1000W PSU, LG Ultragear 48"4K, MFG Crosswinds, TQ6 Throttle, Fulcrum One YokeMy FlightSim YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@skyhigh776
April 13, 20242 yr Beyond ATC it is one payment only. Edited April 13, 20242 yr by rutrA AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D, MSI RTX 5090, 64GB RAM 6000MHz DDR5, Tuf Gaming X870Plus, 1200W PSU English is not my first language.
April 13, 20242 yr 38 minutes ago, RALF9636 said: I don't think anybody has a problem with a one-time purchase for $30. It is the $30 per month SayIntentions (and eventually also BATC if you want to have the premium voices) charges that is completely out of proportion with everything else we've known so far in flightsimulation. There is absolutely nothing I have seen that has come out of BATC that says $30 a month. Can you provide a reference for that, or are you just making figures up? G Gary Davies aka "Gazzareth" Simming since 747 on the Acorn Electron
April 13, 20242 yr edit he was referring to if you want the premium packs is where you have to top up every month Edited April 13, 20242 yr by pete_auau I7-8700k,Corsair h1101 cooler ,Asus Strix Gaming Intel Z370 S11 motherboard, Corsair 32gb ramDD4,, gtx 1080ti Card, RM850 power supply Peter kelberg
April 13, 20242 yr The only thing that worries me about BATC at the moment is that, the waiting time for a response from ATC is quite long. I wonder what it will look like if several thousand people use it at the same time. AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D, MSI RTX 5090, 64GB RAM 6000MHz DDR5, Tuf Gaming X870Plus, 1200W PSU English is not my first language.
April 13, 20242 yr 17 minutes ago, rutrA said: The only thing that worries me about BATC at the moment is that, the waiting time for a response from ATC is quite long. I wonder what it will look like if several thousand people use it at the same time. Hmm, good point. HowardMSI Mag B650 Tomahawk MB, Ryzen7-7800X3D CPU@5ghz, Arctic AIO II 360 cooler, Nvidia RTX4090 GPU, 32gb DDR5@6000Mhz, SSD/2Tb+SSD/500Gb+OS, Corsair 1000W PSU, LG Ultragear 48"4K, MFG Crosswinds, TQ6 Throttle, Fulcrum One YokeMy FlightSim YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@skyhigh776
April 13, 20242 yr 30 minutes ago, pete_auau said: edit he was referring to if you want the premium packs is where you have to top up every month Almost - it's my understanding that you only need to top up if/when your credit runs out. Ian Box
April 13, 20242 yr 20 minutes ago, rutrA said: The only thing that worries me about BATC at the moment is that, the waiting time for a response from ATC is quite long. I wonder what it will look like if several thousand people use it at the same time. suppose be the same with sayintentions I7-8700k,Corsair h1101 cooler ,Asus Strix Gaming Intel Z370 S11 motherboard, Corsair 32gb ramDD4,, gtx 1080ti Card, RM850 power supply Peter kelberg
April 13, 20242 yr 1 minute ago, ConstVoid said: Almost - it's my understanding that you only need to top up if/when your credit runs out. yep if your credit runs out than you want get the premium voices till you top up I7-8700k,Corsair h1101 cooler ,Asus Strix Gaming Intel Z370 S11 motherboard, Corsair 32gb ramDD4,, gtx 1080ti Card, RM850 power supply Peter kelberg
April 13, 20242 yr 34 minutes ago, pete_auau said: edit he was referring to if you want the premium packs is where you have to top up every month But it's not $30 a month, in fact you don't necessarily have to top up monthly. G Gary Davies aka "Gazzareth" Simming since 747 on the Acorn Electron
April 13, 20242 yr 1 minute ago, Gazzareth said: But it's not $30 a month, in fact you don't necessarily have to top up monthly. G depends on how many flights you do a month as explained here https://fselite.net/content/beyondatc-revises-pricing-model/ I7-8700k,Corsair h1101 cooler ,Asus Strix Gaming Intel Z370 S11 motherboard, Corsair 32gb ramDD4,, gtx 1080ti Card, RM850 power supply Peter kelberg
April 13, 20242 yr 1 minute ago, pete_auau said: depends on how many flights you do a month as explained here https://fselite.net/content/beyondatc-revises-pricing-model/ But this is optional if You would like use premium voice. OPTIONAL. AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D, MSI RTX 5090, 64GB RAM 6000MHz DDR5, Tuf Gaming X870Plus, 1200W PSU English is not my first language.
April 13, 20242 yr boy this is getting too confusing 🙂 yep i know its optional think users are getting confused on sayintentions pricing and batc pricing I7-8700k,Corsair h1101 cooler ,Asus Strix Gaming Intel Z370 S11 motherboard, Corsair 32gb ramDD4,, gtx 1080ti Card, RM850 power supply Peter kelberg
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