March 26, 20242 yr 26 minutes ago, cianpars said: DSR and DLSS looks really good but hurts performance too badly on my rig. TAA performance is similar so I stick with DLSS quality setting. I wrote a very lengthy guide on the benefits of DLSS+(DL)DSR a while back. Since then I’ve gone back to native 4K as 5144x2880 caused my GPU to go into overdrive. 7950X3D | RTX 4090 | 64GB DDR5
March 26, 20242 yr 5 minutes ago, Cpt_Piett said: I wrote a very lengthy guide on the benefits of DLSS+(DL)DSR a while back. Since then I’ve gone back to native 4K as 5144x2880 caused my GPU to go into overdrive. Try 7680 x 2160. lol Edited March 26, 20242 yr by RobJC 7950X3D | RTX 4090 | 96GB DDR5 | 4K G-Sync | Win11 Pro
March 26, 20242 yr Commercial Member Cockpit display ghosting is beyond annoying to me and basically the only reason I'm not using it. Kyle Weber (Private Pilot, ASEL; Flight Test Engineer)Check out my repaints and downloads, all right here on AVSIM
March 26, 20242 yr Author 1 hour ago, CaptKornDog said: Cockpit display ghosting is beyond annoying to me and basically the only reason I'm not using it. Sure, that was the reason I never used DLSS etc but having given it some time, I find the much sharper ground textures and virtually no shimmering textures around airports, is a bonus which, for me, outweighs the instrument smearing. Having said that, I am now experiencing freezes!! The last three flights, in fact, the only flights I have done with DLSS/DLAA + DX12 have each ended with a freeze, where nothing in the VC is operational. It seems my experience with this new found setting is going to be short lived. Can anyone tell me whether these freezes are associated with DX12 or the DLSS settings and if others are reporting the same? HowardMSI Mag B650 Tomahawk MB, Ryzen7-7800X3D CPU@5ghz, Arctic AIO II 360 cooler, Nvidia RTX4090 GPU, 32gb DDR5@6000Mhz, SSD/2Tb+SSD/500Gb+OS, Corsair 1000W PSU, LG Ultragear 48"4K, MFG Crosswinds, TQ6 Throttle, Fulcrum One YokeMy FlightSim YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@skyhigh776
March 26, 20242 yr 16 minutes ago, Rocky_53 said: Sure, that was the reason I never used DLSS etc but having given it some time, I find the much sharper ground textures and virtually no shimmering textures around airports, is a bonus which, for me, outweighs the instrument smearing. Having said that, I am now experiencing freezes!! The last three flights, in fact, the only flights I have done with DLSS/DLAA + DX12 have each ended with a freeze, where nothing in the VC is operational. It seems my experience with this new found setting is going to be short lived. Can anyone tell me whether these freezes are associated with DX12 or the DLSS settings and if others are reporting the same? I use DLSS/DLAA with DX12 and have no freezes. Alvega CPU: AMD 7800X3D | COOLER: Cooler Master MasterLiquid 240L Core ARGB | GPU: RTX 4070 TI Super 16GB OC | Mobo: ASUS TUF GAMING X670E-PLUS WIFI |RAM: 32 GB Corsair Vengeance RGB DDR5 6000MHz PC5-48000 2x16GB CL36 | SSDs: WD Black SN770 2TB NVMe SSD (WIN11), WD Black SN850X SSD 2 TB M.2 2280 PCIe Gen4 NVMe (MSFS), Crucial MX500 2TB (Other stuff) | CASE: Forgeon Arcanite ARGB Mesh Tower ATX White | Power Supply: Forgeon Bolt PSU 850W 80+ Gold Full Modular White
March 27, 20242 yr Razor sharp everything, no shimmering, no artifacts, gauges/text fabulous, no ghosting, no freezes, no melts...: HAGS on, DX12, TAA, all Ultra,GFE Detail Filter and most importantly: Render Scale 160 on a 3440x1440 display. Rocky: try this if you haven't you have the VRAM for it. Edited March 27, 20242 yr by Noel Noel System: 9900X3D Noctua NH-D15 G2, MSI Pro 650-P WiFi, G.SKILL 64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000, WD NVMe 2Tb x 1, Sabrent NVMe 2Tb x 1, RTX 4090 FE, Corsair RM1000W PSU, Win11 Home, LG Ultra Curved Gsync Ultimate 3440x1440, Phanteks Enthoo Pro Case, TCA Boeing Edition Yoke & TQ, Cessna Trim Wheel, RTSS Framerate Limiter w/ Front Edge Sync. Aircraft used in MSFS 2024: Fenix A320, Aerosoft CRJ, FBW, WT 787X, I-Fly 737 MAX 8, Citation Longitude.
March 27, 20242 yr 18 minutes ago, Noel said: GFE Detail Filter What is this, Noel? 7950X3D | RTX 4090 | 96GB DDR5 | 4K G-Sync | Win11 Pro
March 27, 20242 yr 3 minutes ago, RobJC said: What is this, Noel? GeForce Experience filters, one of which is called Detail. Also handily addresses dark cockpit as well. Edited March 27, 20242 yr by Noel Noel System: 9900X3D Noctua NH-D15 G2, MSI Pro 650-P WiFi, G.SKILL 64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000, WD NVMe 2Tb x 1, Sabrent NVMe 2Tb x 1, RTX 4090 FE, Corsair RM1000W PSU, Win11 Home, LG Ultra Curved Gsync Ultimate 3440x1440, Phanteks Enthoo Pro Case, TCA Boeing Edition Yoke & TQ, Cessna Trim Wheel, RTSS Framerate Limiter w/ Front Edge Sync. Aircraft used in MSFS 2024: Fenix A320, Aerosoft CRJ, FBW, WT 787X, I-Fly 737 MAX 8, Citation Longitude.
March 27, 20242 yr So this is TAA... This is DLSS/DLAA... I really cannot tell the difference. Could be old/tired eyes. Edited March 27, 20242 yr by RobJC 7950X3D | RTX 4090 | 96GB DDR5 | 4K G-Sync | Win11 Pro
March 27, 20242 yr 11 minutes ago, Noel said: GeForce Experience filters, one of which is called Detail. Also handily addresses dark cockpit as well. Thanks! 7950X3D | RTX 4090 | 96GB DDR5 | 4K G-Sync | Win11 Pro
March 27, 20242 yr Author 3 hours ago, Noel said: Razor sharp everything, no shimmering, no artifacts, gauges/text fabulous, no ghosting, no freezes, no melts...: HAGS on, DX12, TAA, all Ultra,GFE Detail Filter and most importantly: Render Scale 160 on a 3440x1440 display. Rocky: try this if you haven't you have the VRAM for it. OK Noel, thanks for the heads up. I'll check it out. Edited March 27, 20242 yr by Rocky_53 HowardMSI Mag B650 Tomahawk MB, Ryzen7-7800X3D CPU@5ghz, Arctic AIO II 360 cooler, Nvidia RTX4090 GPU, 32gb DDR5@6000Mhz, SSD/2Tb+SSD/500Gb+OS, Corsair 1000W PSU, LG Ultragear 48"4K, MFG Crosswinds, TQ6 Throttle, Fulcrum One YokeMy FlightSim YouTube Channel: https://www.youtube.com/@skyhigh776
March 27, 20242 yr 2 hours ago, RobJC said: I really cannot tell the difference. Could be old/tired eyes. Then I've got old/tired eyes too! I did a similar comparison a while back and came to the same conclusion as you. I'll be as bold as to suggest some general suggestions (based on this and other recent threads): TAA if that gives the best image quality (in the eyes of the beholder) - with or without increasing the render scaling DLSS+DLAA (no downscaling involved) - if that gives the best image quality DLSS + any of the downscaling options (performance, quality etc) if the extra performance benefit is needed 7950X3D | RTX 4090 | 64GB DDR5
March 28, 20242 yr 9 hours ago, RobJC said: I really cannot tell the difference. Could be old/tired eyes. Maybe it's not visible in a screenshot but a video? Best regards,Luis Hernández Main rig: self built, AMD Ryzen 7 5700X3D (with SMT off and CO -50 mV), 2x16 GB DDR4-3200 RAM, Nvidia RTX 5060Ti 16GB, 256 GB M.2 SSD (OS+apps) + 2x1 TB SATA III SSD (sims) + 1 TB 7200 rpm HDD (storage), ID-Cooling SE-224-XTS air cooler, Viewsonic VX2458-MHD 1920x1080@120-144 Hz (G-sync compatible), Windows 11. Running P3D v5.4 (with v4.5 scenery objects as an additional library, just in case), FSX-SE, MSFS2020, MSFS2024 and even FS9! Lossless Scaling for all my sims. What a godsend...Mobile rig: ASUS Zenbook UM425QA (AMD Ryzen 7 5800H APU @3.2 GHz and boost disabled, 1 TB M.2 SSD, 16 GB RAM, Windows 11 Pro). Running FS9 there .VKB Gladiator NXT Premium Left + GNX THQ as primary controllers. Xbox Series X|S wireless controller as standby/mobile.
March 28, 20242 yr 10 hours ago, RobJC said: I really cannot tell the difference. Could be old/tired eyes. I can't tell a difference when sitting still either. But TAA looks much better to me in motion. Neither are great though. There are a lot of people who don't like temporal AA cus it's really not great for image clarity - there is a lot of blurriness and ghosting compared to the good old days of MSAA. I should add that the DLSS+DLAA option looks much better than DLAA only option. I'm not really sure what the difference is here technically, but they clearly work differently. Actually I just realised you said DLSS/DLAA, so I guess you're using DLSS+DLAA. In which case I agree, they aren't much different. Imo DLSS+DLAA works better than TAA, whereas DLAA only does not look better than TAA. For those confused, under Anti-Aliasing options you can select either TAA, DLAA, or DLSS. If you choose DLSS you can then select Performance, Balanced, Quality, or DLAA in the field below. Edited March 28, 20242 yr by s0cks
March 28, 20242 yr Ok, I take that back. TAA is still better than DLSS/DLAA. It's noticeable in a glass cockpit. DLSS\DLAA: TAA:
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