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I've just bought active sky and when i select live weather preset nothing happens, always clear skies, im in LTFM with storms and rain in default live weather but with active sky nothing happens, what im doing wrong?

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    I just watched that.  I was pretty surprised that his main critique of AS wx depictions was that the clouds were too flat, and lacked vertical development compared to MSFS.   This surprised me be

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2 minutes ago, miguel370 said:

I've just bought active sky and when i select live weather preset nothing happens, always clear skies, im in LTFM with storms and rain in default live weather but with active sky nothing happens, what im doing wrong?

Is ASFS connecting to the sim? Check top-left corner.

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Just now, Cpt_Piett said:

Is ASFS connecting to the sim? Check top-left corner.

Yes, it says MSFS connected, activity idle, wx mode live real time mode

21 minutes ago, Cpt_Piett said:

Is ASFS connecting to the sim? Check top-left corner.

Maybe I have to restart the sim?

28 minutes ago, miguel370 said:

Maybe I have to restart the sim?

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On 4/30/2024 at 11:41 PM, RALF9636 said:

In the Beta we had people saying it was too dark while others said it was not dark enough. So this seems to be highly subjective. Most probably it also depends on the monitor (HDR capability) and monitor settings. Also the aircraft and the tint of its windows come into play. And even  your camera position and zoom factor and the brightness of the cockpit colours influence the lighting because of the eye-adaptation feature of MSFS (which seems to have weakened in one of their latest updates).

I recommend using the Geforce filters, in particular the HDR toning setting. Create three different presets so you can easily choose the one that you like best in the actual lighting conditions in the sim.

I would like to say that I could agree, however in my case if I load MSFS Live Weather and it is overcast but still daytime in terms of brightness and then I load ASFS and it turns so dark it looks like dusk/almost night only under the cloud base and normal lighting above the cloud base then it seems to be ASFS's depiction directly changing the brightness to an exaggerated effect within the sim...  Changing presets isn't the answer if the issue is only below the cloud base as it will then change the brightness above the cloud tops which appears correctly.  

If I've never seen the sim turn this dark without ASFS and as soon as I enable ASFS it is an instant change it's hard to point to anything but ASFS.  It's not a show stopper for me by any means but certainly noticeable.   

I do understand in general this will vary by user's monitor as you say though.  No disagreement there, just describing my experiences. 

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1 hour ago, psolk said:

I do understand in general this will vary by user's monitor as you say though.  No disagreement there, just describing my experiences. 

I have not noticed this, but I think that monitor settings / HDR might not be that relevant if it’s considerably darker with ASFS vs default. Also brightening the image would lead to excessive brightness when above the clouds. 

Thought this looked quite good:

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Didn’t notice it at the time, but did when watching the video from the flight. I was at 18,000 close to Quito, Ecuador. That looks like precipitation from those CU clouds. Also, there’s a high altitude layer of… citrus?

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1 hour ago, psolk said:

I would like to say that I could agree, however in my case if I load MSFS Live Weather and it is overcast but still daytime in terms of brightness and then I load ASFS and it turns so dark it looks like dusk/almost night only under the cloud base and normal lighting above the cloud base then it seems to be ASFS's depiction directly changing the brightness to an exaggerated effect within the sim...  Changing presets isn't the answer if the issue is only below the cloud base as it will then change the brightness above the cloud tops which appears correctly.  

If I've never seen the sim turn this dark without ASFS and as soon as I enable ASFS it is an instant change it's hard to point to anything but ASFS.  It's not a show stopper for me by any means but certainly noticeable.   

I do understand in general this will vary by user's monitor as you say though.  No disagreement there, just describing my experiences. 

 

32 minutes ago, Cpt_Piett said:

I have not noticed this, but I think that monitor settings / HDR might not be that relevant if it’s considerably darker with ASFS vs default. Also brightening the image would lead to excessive brightness when above the clouds. 

 

There seems to be a misunderstanding. There is no dissent that the darkening effect is caused by ASFS. I never said otherwise.

I would say it's not a bug it's a feature. It has to do with the way the clouds are depicted by ASFS and is one of the reasons why clouds by ASFS look different (some would say "better"...) than in MSFS default weather.

What I tried to say is that it is subjective and dependent on your setup if you perceive this darkening as appropriate, as too dark or as not dark enough. We've had all these perceptions in the Betateam so there would not be one setting to please all.

That's why I suggested to use the Geforce filters to obtain an image that pleases you most. In particular the HDR-toning setting I recommended does not simply brighten up everything. It brightens overly dark scenes and darkens overly bright scenes. I use such a filter myself because actually I personally also think the darkening is a little too much - but not everybody perceives it that way. Again I recommend to test the filters yourself.

 

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1 hour ago, RALF9636 said:

There seems to be a misunderstanding.

I think I mentioned earlier in this thread that, in the real world, I am not surprised when things look dark and gloomy beneath a heavy cloud layer. Which is probably why I haven’t reacted to this effect with ASFS. But sure, GeForce filters could probably be a good idea to brighten things up a little - but wouldn’t it brighten everything up though?

1 hour ago, RALF9636 said:

I would say it's not a bug it's a feature.

That’s my sentiment as well. 

1 hour ago, RALF9636 said:

In particular the HDR-toning setting I recommended does not simply brighten up everything. It brightens overly dark scenes and darkens overly bright scenes. I use such a filter myself because actually I personally also think the darkening is a little too much - but not everybody perceives it that way. Again I recommend to test the filters yourself.

Got it, that makes sense. Would that filter work on a HDR-capable monitor though? I mean, if you’ve already enabled HDR in Win display settings? IIRC it was disabled when I tried it with the Nvidia beta app. It was part of a series of new features.

Pretty dense cloud layer here and not particularly dark. I really like the fog / haze atmospheric effects.

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On second thought, the cloud coverage is probably too dense compared to the nearby METAR.

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2 minutes ago, Cpt_Piett said:

 

Got it, that makes sense. Would that filter work on a HDR-capable monitor though? I mean, if you’ve already enabled HDR in Win display settings? IIRC it was disabled when I tried it with the Nvidia beta app. It was part of a series of new features.

Actually I don't know. My monitor is not HDR-capable.

Just try it. I'm interested to hear your report.

1 hour ago, RALF9636 said:

Just try it. I'm interested to hear your report.

I’d like to, but then I’ll have to install GeForce which I kinda scrapped in the latest DDU-driver update (couldn’t deal with the temperamental video recording). But I’ll consider re-installing and testing it, as I’ve stopped using HDR for my videos (took nearly 24 hrs to upload a 4K HDR video).

‘Perhaps there’s some other useful filters that you recommend? Sort of like ReShade I guess, which I used extensively back in the day.

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33 minutes ago, Cpt_Piett said:

Perhaps there’s some other useful filters that you recommend? Sort of like ReShade I guess, which I used extensively back in the day.

Sorry, I only use the Geforce filters. 

I just noticed that the Navigraph Hub now has an option to update ASFS AIRAC data. This of course requires a Navigraph nav data subscription, and the latest beta (8883 or later version) of ASFS.

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5 minutes ago, RALF9636 said:

Sorry, I only use the Geforce filters. 

Actually that’s what I meant. I’ll check it out once I’m back in the sim later this evening!

1 minute ago, JRBarrett said:

I just noticed that the Navigraph Hub now has an option to update ASFS AIRAC data. This of course requires a Navigraph nav data subscription, and the latest beta (8883 or later version) of ASFS.

Great. But could you please remind me why we need AIRAC data in ASFS? Never understood that. Something to do with Simbrief plans perhaps? 

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yeah, this is a tough one. There are a lot of variables, the most important one is personal preference. I suspect we're looking towards another slider for ambient light adjustment or something. I wish there could be a one size fits all but it just doesn't happen.

 

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