3 hours ago, tup61 said:

Yes!

I am a pure button control user and don't even have a mic attached to my PC. I myself do have autorespond on because I don't like to have the UI open all the time but I do manually change frequencies (gives me something to do) so I have take action to make contact every now and then. With autorespond AND autotune on BATC would do too much to my liking. I fly a single pilot airplane so as I have it now the so called co-pilot actually is 'me'.

You can either click in the UI on what you want to say but there also is an option to assign a button or key to whatever is on the top of the list of things to say. Like when I change frequencies during a flight I have to Announce on frequency and I always do that with the assigned button. On ground I often have to click in the UI anyway (for startup or taxi) because those options often aren't on the top of the list.

And there also is an option to toggle the UI on and off screen with a single click (an assignable button or key).

Hi. Where is the setting to toggle the  UI on and off screen when MSFS is in full screen? Can you assign any key binding?

Regards.

  

2 hours ago, Fiorentoni said:

Have you tried talking to it? I've felt stupid talking to the robotic P2ATC controllers and used button mode for that, but with BATC it's a whole different experience. It understands you much better (most of the time) and I feel like I can talk like I would with a human. This greatly increases immersion. Not trying to change your "style of flight", just saying you might want to give it a try if you haven't yet. It's a revelation 🙂

Would love to in all honesty but I can't use my voice for several reasons.

2 hours ago, Fiorentoni said:

Trying to filter through Discord it hopeless, so I better ask you: What's screwed up now with the lastest patch?

Haha, hopeless, indeed, but the current standouts are being told to descend while still like 500 nm away from the destination (as if the TOC is TOD) and giving opposing instructions when it comes to the landing runway (like you are told to land on rwy 27 but the given instructions are for runway 09).

 

1 hour ago, Farlis said:

What in your opinion is EA?

Yes, well, indeed, it depends on your definition. Imho EA is a phase beyond beta, so it should be quite a bit better and getting ready for release. That definition corresponds with what the devs said about BATC because they first had a beta and when the beta was sort of good enough they released the EA. But during the EA some things suddenly became worse than during beta and a lot of the current problems are beta problems imho. So imho the current EA is still a beta.

It certainly is NOT alpha though... Would be odd to call the beta beta and the following EA alpha... The EA of BATC isn't THAT bad, haha!

1 hour ago, Peter Webber said:

Hi. Where is the setting to toggle the  UI on and off screen when MSFS is in full screen? Can you assign any key binding?

Regards.

It is in the options menu, in the left bottom. You can assign a button or key to it. Take note that the button or key works all over Windows so don't use for instance the E key if you also want to type something during flying. 😉 I'd advice a button on a controller.

And while I am at it: he toggle always works to hide the UI but once hiddden it will only show up again when the UI isn't active anymore. So once you have clicked on something in BATC make sure to click on the MSFS screen again to make the BATC UI inactive or the toggle won't work as expected anymore. (Sounds complicated but I don't know how to put is more simple, haha!)

Edited May 30, 20242 yr by tup61

11 hours ago, tup61 said:

Ever tried to press Esc...? 😉 That'll do exactly what you want.

Yes it does, I completely missed it🙈

10 hours ago, tup61 said:

Imho EA is a phase beyond beta, so it should be quite a bit better and getting ready for release.

Your opinion is noted, but it seems to diverge quite a bit from what EA usually is.

EA is usually part of the Alpha phase. There are numerous examples of games in Alpha that are released on Steam to generate cash flow for the developers. During this phase the community can playtest, make suggestions to add features.

I see BATC firmly in that category.

 

Beta happens when a product is feature complete and a wide test before release is done to figure out how stable the software is in numerous configurations.

 

The definition of Beta and Alpha software has muddied a lot in the last couple decades.

But yes, traditionally Beta software was feature complete and undergoing final testing.

Edited May 31, 20242 yr by Tuskin38

17 hours ago, tup61 said:

  

Would love to in all honesty but I can't use my voice for several reasons.

Haha, hopeless, indeed, but the current standouts are being told to descend while still like 500 nm away from the destination (as if the TOC is TOD) and giving opposing instructions when it comes to the landing runway (like you are told to land on rwy 27 but the given instructions are for runway 09).

 

Yes, well, indeed, it depends on your definition. Imho EA is a phase beyond beta, so it should be quite a bit better and getting ready for release. That definition corresponds with what the devs said about BATC because they first had a beta and when the beta was sort of good enough they released the EA. But during the EA some things suddenly became worse than during beta and a lot of the current problems are beta problems imho. So imho the current EA is still a beta.

It certainly is NOT alpha though... Would be odd to call the beta beta and the following EA alpha... The EA of BATC isn't THAT bad, haha!

It is in the options menu, in the left bottom. You can assign a button or key to it. Take note that the button or key works all over Windows so don't use for instance the E key if you also want to type something during flying. 😉 I'd advice a button on a controller.

And while I am at it: he toggle always works to hide the UI but once hiddden it will only show up again when the UI isn't active anymore. So once you have clicked on something in BATC make sure to click on the MSFS screen again to make the BATC UI inactive or the toggle won't work as expected anymore. (Sounds complicated but I don't know how to put is more simple, haha!)

Hi. I did assign a joystick input. Thanks. I was wondering why the interface went hidden, and then was unable to recall it. Hope they fix this, or even add an option in the "ingame" menu bar.

10 hours ago, Farlis said:

Your opinion is noted, but it seems to diverge quite a bit from what EA usually is.

EA is usually part of the Alpha phase. There are numerous examples of games in Alpha that are released on Steam to generate cash flow for the developers. During this phase the community can playtest, make suggestions to add features.

I see BATC firmly in that category.

 

Beta happens when a product is feature complete and a wide test before release is done to figure out how stable the software is in numerous configurations.

 

I also see BATC EA more as alpha but the dev himself doesn't. Take note there has been a beta before the EA. In the official announcement the dev even thanks the beta team for its work and the version number went from 0.# to 1.#.

So it is not MY opinion that BATC isn't alpha: according to the dev this is a post beta release. Would be odd to call a post beta release alpha.

But regardless of all that: BATC is indeed more in alpha than in beta state...

  

2 hours ago, Peter Webber said:

Hi. I did assign a joystick input. Thanks. I was wondering why the interface went hidden, and then was unable to recall it. Hope they fix this, or even add an option in the "ingame" menu bar.

A fix would be nice indeed but once you know how it works it isn't a big problem. Not for me anyway. 😉

Edited May 31, 20242 yr by tup61

On 5/23/2024 at 1:43 PM, Petraeus said:

I've been trying to diagnose the problem I've had with BATC and extremely slow responses. Turns out that when I'm using VR, and mouse click somewhere inside my VR field of view, BATC does not respond, or only slowly. Something to do with focus, I'm assuming. Those are the circumstances, but I've not found a cure yet. 'Always on Top' and 'Toggle Bring to Front' don't make any difference.

I've now solved this, by running the 2D panel in full screen when I'm using VR,

It solved my laggy mouse problem as well!

22 minutes ago, Petraeus said:

I've now solved this, by running the 2D panel in full screen when I'm using VR,

It solved my laggy mouse problem as well!

With which headset?

I use a HP G2 and never had this issue since release day.

Do you have MSFS running full screen?

9 minutes ago, roland_lfor said:

With which headset? Varjo Aero, but other headset users have reported the same problem.

I use a HP G2 and never had this issue since release day.

Do you have MSFS running full screen? Yes, that's what fixed it for me.

 

Edited May 31, 20242 yr by Petraeus

2 minutes ago, Petraeus said:

 

Ok I misunderstood that you were running BATC full screen to solve it.

By the way I've just discovered from Discord this fresh app that replicate BATC conversation in an ingame panel HERE.

Usefull in VR

Edited May 31, 20242 yr by roland_lfor

Just now, roland_lfor said:

Ok I misunderstood that you were running BATC full screen to solve it.

Yes, sorry; I should have been clearer / more specific. Also I just set BATC to 'always on top' but I don't know if that is crucial.

3 minutes ago, roland_lfor said:

By the way I've just discovered from Discord this fresh app that replicate BATC conversation in an ingame panel HERE.

Usefull in VR

Have you tried it yet?

1 minute ago, Petraeus said:

Have you tried it yet?

Not yet, just installed it 2 mins ago

From GitHub

Edited May 31, 20242 yr by roland_lfor

That was weird. The ATC amended my flight plan into KDEN for Runway 16L, when the wind was 350 Degrees, the complete opposite for that runway.