20 minutes ago, virtuali said:

The point was getting data that missing from MSFS Navdata, like Deicing pads and (more importantly), custom Pushback routes. Clearly, if you don't have the product that allows you Deicing or pre-made custom Pushback routes (GSX), you don't need (or even want) BATC to instruct you to go to a non-usable Deicing pad or follow a non existing custom Pushback route.

So the answer is no, its not a universal solution for BATC but a GSX only solution. Thank you.

35 minutes ago, Vel said:

So the answer is no, its not a universal solution for BATC but a GSX only solution. Thank you.

I still don't understand what do you mean with "universal solution": why you even *want* to know there is a Deicing pad, if you don't have an actual...Deicer? Or a custom pushback route, when you don't have something that can perform it?

In any case, then no, using GSX profile CAN be an "universal solution" too ( even if I fail to understand what is supposed to solve, in absence of the thing able to perform those services ), because it's not as if GSX profile are protected or encrypted. They are simple .INI file and nothing will stop you from downloading and installing them if you don't have GSX.

Some value might come for those not having GSX as well. For example, if a scenery developer designed a regular parking as a Deicing pad, there's no way for BATC to *know* that so, using a GSX profile might help handling that case and recognize the Deicing pad for what it is, that's something a GSX profile can provide to BATC even if you don't use GSX. Of course, once you know there's a Deicing pad there, there isn't much YOU can do without GSX but, at least, BATC won't instruct you to taxi to the wrong parking spot.

The only difference is that, without GSX, BATC might possibly do extra work to associate those profiles to the airport  use, while if using GSX is assumed, we might provide some helper function from within GSX to make their integration easier.

Edited May 29, 20242 yr by virtuali

Generally I’m finding this to be fairly reliable now, with a quick flight from Brussels to London Stansted going without a hitch. Nice descent to meet all the STAR restrictions and popped out on the ILS. 
 

Couple of observations - one is that the taxi instructions seem to be quite lengthy because rather than just give you the taxiway designator ‘U’ for example it’ll give you all the intersections along the way U9, U8, U7 etc which I guess is a limitation of the scenery.
 

Secondly - twice now it’s descended me to the platform altitude for the ILS which is below the minimum altitude of the transition, which it then asks me to cross at or above a higher altitude than the platform altitude that it previously cleared me for. Is this realistic? 

For my fellow Canadian simmers one of the recent patches corrected “Centre” being called “Radar” in Canadian airspace.

Before I even consider this there is one question which believe it or not I can't find a conclusive answer to, not in a review, not in the docs but if it is it's certainly not easy to find a definitive answer, I may have missed it and it's probably been answered but basically from what I can tell you have to use either your own voice or use auto respond and pick a voice for your copilot, I do not want to be talking in headphones at all, I dislike having to do that 

Bottom line can I click on pre determined responses manually similar to the default ATC, so no talking or no 'auto response' either?
Ideally I want to be silent, just click the response I want to give.

17 minutes ago, stefaandk said:

Bottom line can I click on pre determined responses manually similar to the default ATC, so no talking or no 'auto response' either?
Ideally I want to be silent, just click the response I want to give.

Yes!

I am a pure button control user and don't even have a mic attached to my PC. I myself do have autorespond on because I don't like to have the UI open all the time but I do manually change frequencies (gives me something to do) so I have take action to make contact every now and then. With autorespond AND autotune on BATC would do too much to my liking. I fly a single pilot airplane so as I have it now the so called co-pilot actually is 'me'.

You can either click in the UI on what you want to say but there also is an option to assign a button or key to whatever is on the top of the list of things to say. Like when I change frequencies during a flight I have to Announce on frequency and I always do that with the assigned button. On ground I often have to click in the UI anyway (for startup or taxi) because those options often aren't on the top of the list.

And there also is an option to toggle the UI on and off screen with a single click (an assignable button or key).

Edited May 30, 20242 yr by tup61

Thank you, that's great to know, the focus seems to always be on using your own voice whenever looking into this product, fair enough I guess but as a result the other options on how to interact seem to barely even get a mention.

6 minutes ago, stefaandk said:

Thank you, that's great to know, the focus seems to always be on using your own voice whenever looking into this product, fair enough I guess but as a result the other options on how to interact seem to barely even get a mention.

Agreed. The whole button support was a thing on the side too during beta. I had to BEG for actual BUTTON cotrol the entire time. But well, at least it offers enough now to be used by someone who doesn't want to talk.

Do take note though that BATC is still in Early Access. I'd call it beta, actually. Because it IS beta. It's not really EA imho. Lots of problems going on all the time. But when it works it's great. The latest patch from yesterday seems to have screwed up a lot of things again though... People are asked to descend and get ready for the ILS with still 500 nm to fly and so on... it's a bit messy right now. Think I will use FSHud for my flights this evening. 😉 

A cancel and reload flightplan functionality would come in handy. At the current state (Afaik), I have to close and reload the app in order to reload a simbrief flightplan.

It's an interesting situation, the closer we get to achieving realism, the more frustrating it becomes to notice any incorrect behaviour.

6 minutes ago, hhbrbg said:

A cancel and reload flightplan functionality would come in handy. At the current state (Afaik), I have to close and reload the app in order to reload a simbrief flightplan.

Ever tried to press Esc...? 😉 That'll do exactly what you want.

1 hour ago, tup61 said:

But well, at least it offers enough now to be used by someone who doesn't want to talk.

Have you tried talking to it? I've felt stupid talking to the robotic P2ATC controllers and used button mode for that, but with BATC it's a whole different experience. It understands you much better (most of the time) and I feel like I can talk like I would with a human. This greatly increases immersion. Not trying to change your "style of flight", just saying you might want to give it a try if you haven't yet. It's a revelation 🙂

1 hour ago, tup61 said:

The latest patch from yesterday seems to have screwed up a lot of things again though

Trying to filter through Discord it hopeless, so I better ask you: What's screwed up now with the lastest patch?

1 hour ago, tup61 said:

Ever tried to press Esc...? 😉 That'll do exactly what you want.

Nope, but thanks, will give it a shot🧭

2 hours ago, tup61 said:

I'd call it beta, actually. Because it IS beta. It's not really EA imho.

What in your opinion is EA?

In mine EA is ALPHA not Beta.