September 4, 20241 yr I had the issues mentioned above with sim crashing and having to restart multiple times before I could fly. I really like the PC-12 and keep hoping I can like this version but after this update I am just parking it again. Never been in one but have spent a lot of time in King Air B200's and this thing just continues to feel wrong, and to me the ground handling is still awful. Just my personal opinion; curious what others think.
September 4, 20241 yr 47 minutes ago, ZoblebV8 said: I had the issues mentioned above with sim crashing and having to restart multiple times before I could fly. I really like the PC-12 and keep hoping I can like this version but after this update I am just parking it again. Never been in one but have spent a lot of time in King Air B200's and this thing just continues to feel wrong, and to me the ground handling is still awful. Just my personal opinion; curious what others think. I'll second this. Back in the hanger it goes. From the beginning I have tried so hard to like this thing and just convince myself it is unique, but at the end of the day it just feels unlike any other aircraft I've ever used in any flight sim. Some aspects are improved but it is still completely unenjoyable in my opinion. At this point I'm tempted to just count my loses and buy the Carenado one so I at least have a PC12 to fly. 9800X3D | 5090 | 64GB DDR5 | LG C2 42"
September 4, 20241 yr I haven't gotten chance to try it yet, but before latest patch I never had a problem with steering on the ground or take off. There was some vertical stability issues especially during approach. Here some col vid of pattern work o Life time flight sim enthusiast, current airplane owner 172P (past C182F). FAA CP/IR ASEL/AMEL, FI ASELMy System: AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D , MSI X870 GAMING PLUS, 64G RAM, ASUS RTX5090, 4T SSDPut my hands on (pic/dual/given)7GCAA, 8KCAB, BE24, BE76, BE35-C33, BE35, C150, C152, C172B/N/P/R/SP, 182F, M20E,M20C, M20J, AT6(SNJ4), PA28-140,PA28-151, PA28-161,PA28-181,PA28RT-201,PA28R-180/201T, PA24-250, PA32-300R, PA44, AC114, YAK-18T, YAK-52, SR22
September 4, 20241 yr 16 hours ago, SquadronLeader said: Hi fellow simmers, Just downloaded version 1.3.7 and selected TDS GTN compatibility during the install process, but when I launch the PC-12, it does not show my TDS-GTN. What do I need to do to install the TDS GTN? ??? confused here, how does SimMarket offer version 1.3.8? was going to buy it but now I have no idea what I would be getting. CPU: Core i5-6600K 4 core (3.5GHz) - overclock to 4.3 | RAM: (1066 MHz) 16GB MOBO: ASUS Z170 Pro | GeForce GTX 1070 8GB | MONITOR: 2560 X 1440 2K
September 4, 20241 yr Interested to hear any further reviews. After all the delay in getting the updates to this point, I'm waiting to hear if anything is really improved on the flight dynamics before I'm even going to reinstall. AMD 5830X Nvidia RTX 3060 Win 11
September 4, 20241 yr Good god. Gave it another try sim crashed after the new update. Tried again. And another thing: it just annoys me. I couldn't steer via rudder and the plane felt incredibly slow/lethargic more than I remember. Some of these reasons are my fault but at this point I am too grumpy to even bother with this. Moving on 7800+4090+64ram Just Flight RJ, 146 and F28, Piper Arrows ---A2A Aerostar and Comanche---Black Square Starship, Duke(s), TBM, Bonanza/BaronV2, KingAir---FSReborn FSR500---COWS Da42---FX P180, HJet & VJet---FlySimWare Chancellor and LearJet---FlightSimStudio EMB175 &P2006T---Fenix 320---PMDG DC6, 737(700+900), 777---C22J---Milviz Cessna 310 & Porter---SimWorksStudios Kodiak, PC12, Zenith & RV14---BigRadials Goose---IndiaFoxEcho MB3339+F35.
September 4, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, Sonosusto said: Good god. Gave it another try sim crashed after the new update. Tried again. And another thing: it just annoys me. I couldn't steer via rudder and the plane felt incredibly slow/lethargic more than I remember. Some of these reasons are my fault but at this point I am too grumpy to even bother with this. Moving on I never had problem with taxi with PC-12 before. And seems like no one complaining about it on discord after the patch. I'm not sure what is your expectations are but heavier GA airplane don't taxi like your car. You have to use combination of rudder, throttles and brakes. We don't have to go far - a lot of students initially can't turn even 172 in tight places, especially during runup. It takes some practice for them actually learn how to taxi in those places without speeding up or burning brakes LOL Life time flight sim enthusiast, current airplane owner 172P (past C182F). FAA CP/IR ASEL/AMEL, FI ASELMy System: AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D , MSI X870 GAMING PLUS, 64G RAM, ASUS RTX5090, 4T SSDPut my hands on (pic/dual/given)7GCAA, 8KCAB, BE24, BE76, BE35-C33, BE35, C150, C152, C172B/N/P/R/SP, 182F, M20E,M20C, M20J, AT6(SNJ4), PA28-140,PA28-151, PA28-161,PA28-181,PA28RT-201,PA28R-180/201T, PA24-250, PA32-300R, PA44, AC114, YAK-18T, YAK-52, SR22
September 4, 20241 yr Just now, sd_flyer said: I never had problem with taxi with PC-12 before. And seems like no one complaining about it on discord after the patch. I'm not sure what is your expectations are but heavier GA airplane don't taxi like your car. You have to use combination of rudder, throttles and brakes. We don't have to go far - a lot of students initially can't turn even 172 in tight places, especially during runup. It takes some practice for them actually learn how to taxi in those places without speeding up or burning brakes LOL Neither have I. think they added a setting to switch types of steering. Was flying this plane just a few days ago in a group flight with no issues. As I said, probably just my fault. This wouldn't budge. Meh. I will go back to it tomorrow probably 7800+4090+64ram Just Flight RJ, 146 and F28, Piper Arrows ---A2A Aerostar and Comanche---Black Square Starship, Duke(s), TBM, Bonanza/BaronV2, KingAir---FSReborn FSR500---COWS Da42---FX P180, HJet & VJet---FlySimWare Chancellor and LearJet---FlightSimStudio EMB175 &P2006T---Fenix 320---PMDG DC6, 737(700+900), 777---C22J---Milviz Cessna 310 & Porter---SimWorksStudios Kodiak, PC12, Zenith & RV14---BigRadials Goose---IndiaFoxEcho MB3339+F35.
September 4, 20241 yr 9 hours ago, vrdubin6 said: I'll second this. Back in the hanger it goes. From the beginning I have tried so hard to like this thing and just convince myself it is unique, but at the end of the day it just feels unlike any other aircraft I've ever used in any flight sim. Some aspects are improved but it is still completely unenjoyable in my opinion. At this point I'm tempted to just count my loses and buy the Carenado one so I at least have a PC12 to fly. Same here - I also expected to really like this plane. But, for me, it's just not enjoyable to fly. F2024 will have Pilatus PC-12 NGX from Carenado. I may wait to see if that is any good. Rick Abshier 5900X | RTX 5070 Ti OC| 64 GB@3600 | India Pale Ale
September 4, 20241 yr Installed the new version with some hope - system did not crash but I have no electric power, when I turn on BATT 1 and BATT 2 it shows no volts or amps everything is dead. Tried uninstalling and re-installing, updated TDS-GTN. No joy. Can not spend hours trouble shooting... Johan Pienaar
September 4, 20241 yr There should be another patch 1.3.8. Has anyone installed it? It's no yet available to contrails Life time flight sim enthusiast, current airplane owner 172P (past C182F). FAA CP/IR ASEL/AMEL, FI ASELMy System: AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D , MSI X870 GAMING PLUS, 64G RAM, ASUS RTX5090, 4T SSDPut my hands on (pic/dual/given)7GCAA, 8KCAB, BE24, BE76, BE35-C33, BE35, C150, C152, C172B/N/P/R/SP, 182F, M20E,M20C, M20J, AT6(SNJ4), PA28-140,PA28-151, PA28-161,PA28-181,PA28RT-201,PA28R-180/201T, PA24-250, PA32-300R, PA44, AC114, YAK-18T, YAK-52, SR22
September 4, 20241 yr Yes, I installed 1.3.8 but there is a problem with the electrical system on 5 bladed prop version, hope they fix it soon. Johan Pienaar
September 4, 20241 yr 24 minutes ago, pinepix62 said: Yes, I installed 1.3.8 but there is a problem with the electrical system on 5 bladed prop version, hope they fix it soon. May be they pulled it back because contrails doesn't have it. Meanwhile TDS updated their software to 1.1.0.7 Life time flight sim enthusiast, current airplane owner 172P (past C182F). FAA CP/IR ASEL/AMEL, FI ASELMy System: AMD Ryzen 9 9950X3D , MSI X870 GAMING PLUS, 64G RAM, ASUS RTX5090, 4T SSDPut my hands on (pic/dual/given)7GCAA, 8KCAB, BE24, BE76, BE35-C33, BE35, C150, C152, C172B/N/P/R/SP, 182F, M20E,M20C, M20J, AT6(SNJ4), PA28-140,PA28-151, PA28-161,PA28-181,PA28RT-201,PA28R-180/201T, PA24-250, PA32-300R, PA44, AC114, YAK-18T, YAK-52, SR22
September 4, 20241 yr On 9/3/2024 at 4:56 AM, james42 said: I haven't touched the SWS PC-12 for a while. I thought its handling during takeoff and landing was totally unacceptable despite the developers saying it was realistic. I do like the aircraft overall. I think the sounds and the turboprop simulation are excellent. So I'm wondering if the flight dynamics have been noticeably improved at all. I've had the pleasure of riding as pax in these aircraft several times IRL. The SWS aircraft do NOT perform as IRL - they're MUCH weaker than IRL. Hopefully this update fixes it!
September 5, 20241 yr On 9/3/2024 at 7:38 PM, vrdubin6 said: I'll second this. Back in the hanger it goes. From the beginning I have tried so hard to like this thing and just convince myself it is unique, but at the end of the day it just feels unlike any other aircraft I've ever used in any flight sim. Some aspects are improved but it is still completely unenjoyable in my opinion. At this point I'm tempted to just count my loses and buy the Carenado one so I at least have a PC12 to fly. Yeah, I have that one as well. I would avoid at all costs. 7800+4090+64ram Just Flight RJ, 146 and F28, Piper Arrows ---A2A Aerostar and Comanche---Black Square Starship, Duke(s), TBM, Bonanza/BaronV2, KingAir---FSReborn FSR500---COWS Da42---FX P180, HJet & VJet---FlySimWare Chancellor and LearJet---FlightSimStudio EMB175 &P2006T---Fenix 320---PMDG DC6, 737(700+900), 777---C22J---Milviz Cessna 310 & Porter---SimWorksStudios Kodiak, PC12, Zenith & RV14---BigRadials Goose---IndiaFoxEcho MB3339+F35.
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