September 27, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, motishow said: take a look at Captain Piett video pls I did, and that is when I noticed how bad the voices sounded.
September 27, 20241 yr 41 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said: I did, and that is when I noticed how bad the voices sounded. I am happy you are the only one to think that
September 27, 20241 yr 10 minutes ago, motishow said: I am happy you are the only one to think that He's not. I also prefer the BATC basic voices over the new FSHUD. I am running v2 so I am not basing this off a YT video.
September 27, 20241 yr I also watched the captain's video and the UI and features are very appealing, but the voices, compared to the ones I've heard in BATC, are not as pleasing to the ear. Maybe because they were euro accents. I'd love to hear how they sound with US voices @Cpt_Piett MSFS
September 27, 20241 yr 2 hours ago, Bobsk8 said: much better than the voices in FS hud, which sound like a 20 year old ATC program. Unless you compare them to the voices of Flight Unlimited II & III. Those voices sounded great for their time. 😀 It's a little harsh! They are much improved from v1. Those sounded bad! V2 voices sound much better, but not like what I've heard in BATC. MSFS
September 27, 20241 yr Author 3 hours ago, Bobsk8 said: The basic voices in BATC, which is all I have used, are much better than the voices in FS hud, which sound like a 20 year old ATC program. Says the man who has been saying for years that PF3 was the best... 😉 As I said the BATC are better in a certain way but I prefer the FSHud v2 ones (which are a lot better than the v1 ones). As the years have proven voices are very a very subjective subject. But saying they sound like a 20 year old ATC program... yeah, well, at least I know now whom to take seriously and whom to disregard when it comes to remarks about ATC programs. Edited September 27, 20241 yr by mistolip
September 27, 20241 yr Author 2 hours ago, Langeveldt said: FSHud v BATC is like driving a real car versus playing with a children's toy at the moment. And the massive negative it had, the performance drop, is nowhere to be seen now. Sure, if you want to hear slightly better voices (debatable), that route you into a mountain, another aircraft, give you incorrect heights and sharp turns onto short final, then BATC is the one for you. I wasted so much money on that program, and they've just lost the race. Well, of course BATC is still EA and experimental, let's not forget that.
September 27, 20241 yr Author 21 minutes ago, BrammyH said: He's not. I also prefer the BATC basic voices over the new FSHUD. I am running v2 so I am not basing this off a YT video. And that's perfectly fine! To each his own. But the remark Bob made is er... well, typical Bob. 😉
September 27, 20241 yr 29 minutes ago, mistolip said: And that's perfectly fine! To each his own. But the remark Bob made is er... well, typical Bob. 😉 Guess you can't deal with an honest opinion.
September 27, 20241 yr 33 minutes ago, mistolip said: Says the man who has been saying for years that PF3 was the best... 😉 As I said the BATC are better in a certain way but I prefer the FSHud v2 ones (which are a lot better than the v1 ones). As the years have proven voices are very a very subjective subject. But saying they sound like a 20 year old ATC program... yeah, well, at least I know now whom to take seriously and whom to disregard when it comes to remarks about ATC programs. Oh just listen to the voices and tell me they sound OK??
September 27, 20241 yr Author 7 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said: Guess you can't deal with an honest opinion. It may be an honest opinion but it's not one that shows sensibility. 😉 4 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said: Oh just listen to the voices and tell me they sound OK?? Apart from being a tad slow: YES! But well, I also liked the FSHud v1 voices (until BATC and FSHud v2 came along) and you always liked the PF3 voices... so as I said: it's a very personal thing.
September 27, 20241 yr Out of all the subjects regarding Aviation, ATC is my favorite one. Maybe because I've been a Radio Personality and DJ for 40 years. I've also been a Pilot for that long. I love listening to ATC and did most of my training, including my initial CFI at KFRG. When it comes to speaking well and sounding good to the human ear, there's a distinctive difference between quality speech and not so quality speech. It has nothing to do with subjectivity. The pitch, resonance, rate, volume, regionalism or accent, are distinguishable characteristics in all of us. Those with better speaking or vocal skills are normally better rewarded. A post just for fun! MSFS
September 27, 20241 yr On 9/24/2024 at 11:34 AM, Bobsk8 said: Watched a couple of videos on FSHud, looks like it has many more features than BATC. I find that BATC is pretty limited in it's capabilities, to the point where I don't even use it anymore. Now that FShud is seeing a performance improvement with V2, looks like I might be buying it once V2 is officially released. . Own and Love BATC but don't use it. Hate FSHUD but never owned it. Your all over the place there Bob. Voices are better on BATC, but the ones on FShud are not bad at all and much improved over the previous version. Lots new and improved in the package. its not just about voices. and until BATC comes out with AI traffic, well, limited as Bob has said. I am actually amazed at what they pulled off here. I did not think they had it in them. Ron MSFS 2024 -Too many airplanes to name. Too many airports to name.
September 27, 20241 yr 3 minutes ago, CFIJose said: Out of all the subjects regarding Aviation, ATC is my favorite one. Maybe because I've been a Radio Personality and DJ for 40 years. I've also been a Pilot for that long. I love listening to ATC and did most of my training, including my initial CFI at KFRG. When it comes to speaking well and sounding good to the human ear, there's a distinctive difference between quality speech and not so quality speech. It has nothing to do with subjectivity. The pitch, resonance, rate, volume, regionalism or accent, are distinguishable characteristics in all of us. Those with better speaking or vocal skills are normally better rewarded. A post just for fun! I was an announcer and program director while in the Army, for AFRS, and then a broadcast engineer for an FM and AM station in the New York City Area, so have a similar background.
September 27, 20241 yr 6 minutes ago, Ron Lefebvre said: Own and Love BATC but don't use it. Hate FSHUD but never owned it. Your all over the place there Bob. Voices are better on BATC, but the ones on FShud are not bad at all and much improved over the previous version. Lots new and improved in the package. its not just about voices. and until BATC comes out with AI traffic, well, limited as Bob has said. I am actually amazed at what they pulled off here. I did not think they had it in them. BATC works well, sounds good, up until the approaches, at least in the US. BATC likes to turn every Star approach into a Visual approach, with poor vectoring. I found a workaround is to ignore the downwind and turn to base vectors , and then it works almost every time. They have made some improvements in BATC recently, so I started using it again. The FSHUD audio sounds to me like it is playing through a blown speaker, so that is a turn off for me. I like the idea that you can change the arrival runways with FSHUD, which doesn't seem to work in BATC. I have been a beta tester and user for several ATC programs, for several decades, so I know a bit about how they should work, plus I flew in real life in two of the most congested ATC airspaces in the US.
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