October 17, 20241 yr Lol, just as a meeting was cancelled this morning that will give me just enough time to watch this😆 i910900k, RTX 3090, 32GB DDR4 RAM, AW3423DW, Ruddy girt big mug of Yorkshire Tea
October 17, 20241 yr Commercial Member “This is not a game, this is a Sim” - Jörg There you have it people. Ha ha! Personally I couldn’t care what it’s called and never have, but what’s an Avsim post without some provocative commentary? Only kidding! On a side note, Jörg if you’re reading this, please improve the night flying experience. That’s the only complaint I have for this sim/game. After the tech alpha I’m looking forward to everything except for flying at night, let’s hope that was not the final look.
October 17, 20241 yr Yeah I'm definitely dropping my Navigraph sub. The default planning tool is looking incredible. 5800X3D. 32 GB RAM. 1TB SATA SSD. 3TB HDD. RX 9070XT.
October 18, 20241 yr 12 minutes ago, Krakin said: Yeah I'm definitely dropping my Navigraph sub. The default planning tool is looking incredible. How are you going to do that? All the payware airplanes charts etc still powered by navigraph 5800X3D, 4090FE, 64GB DDR4 3600C16, Gigabyte X570S MB, EVO 970 M.2's, Alienware 3821DW and 2 22" monitors, Corsair RM1000x PSU, 360MM MSI MEG, MFG Crosswind, T16000M Stick, Boeing TCA Yoke/Throttle, Skalarki MCDU and FCU, Logitech Radio Panel/Switch Panel, Spad.Next
October 18, 20241 yr 16 minutes ago, micstatic said: How are you going to do that? All the payware airplanes charts etc still powered by navigraph I think if they want to support all users including xbox, they'll have to support the native system as well alongside navigraph. I'm assuming this will be part of the SDK. Flight Sim PC - OS: Windows 11 Pro. CPU: i9-13900K. RAM: 64GB. GPU: NVidia RTX 4090 OCFlight Sim Xbox - Seriex X, 3TB
October 18, 20241 yr Author 29 minutes ago, micstatic said: How are you going to do that? All the payware airplanes charts etc still powered by navigraph You can open the Asobo EFB in any aircraft. 42 minutes ago, Krakin said: Yeah I'm definitely dropping my Navigraph sub. The default planning tool is looking incredible. I would, but I still need the sub for the external nav data the Fenix and PMDG aircraft use. I'll probably just downgrade the sub to just Navdata. Edited October 18, 20241 yr by Tuskin38
October 18, 20241 yr Wake turbulence model looks great. Really going to have to think about separation. Hopefully the ATC / AI will be well coordinated for this... i910900k, RTX 3090, 32GB DDR4 RAM, AW3423DW, Ruddy girt big mug of Yorkshire Tea
October 18, 20241 yr Author I don't think wake turbulence was enabled in the alpha, I tried many times taking off behind some big AI traffic in the 172 but didn't notice anything.
October 18, 20241 yr 7 minutes ago, Tuskin38 said: You can open the Asobo EFB in any aircraft. I would, but I still need the sub for the external nav data the Fenix and PMDG aircraft use. I'll probably just downgrade the sub to just Navdata. Opening that feels clunky to me 5800X3D, 4090FE, 64GB DDR4 3600C16, Gigabyte X570S MB, EVO 970 M.2's, Alienware 3821DW and 2 22" monitors, Corsair RM1000x PSU, 360MM MSI MEG, MFG Crosswind, T16000M Stick, Boeing TCA Yoke/Throttle, Skalarki MCDU and FCU, Logitech Radio Panel/Switch Panel, Spad.Next
October 18, 20241 yr 1 hour ago, Krakin said: Yeah I'm definitely dropping my Navigraph sub. The default planning tool is looking incredible. Do we know if the EFB will be available outside the sim, even when it's not running? So if I want to plan a flight on my iPad while I'm having breakfast I can then boot up the sim and import it into the avionics when I'm finished with my bacon butty and tea? i910900k, RTX 3090, 32GB DDR4 RAM, AW3423DW, Ruddy girt big mug of Yorkshire Tea
October 18, 20241 yr Author 10 minutes ago, scotchegg said: Do we know if the EFB will be available outside the sim, even when it's not running? So if I want to plan a flight on my iPad while I'm having breakfast I can then boot up the sim and import it into the avionics when I'm finished with my bacon butty and tea? Yes. Its apparently just a webpage you can access
October 18, 20241 yr Man oh man the physics improvements in so many aspects of the sim that Seb walks through starting around here https://youtu.be/fp4a3hPwP4s?t=962 ... wish they had let him talk even longer 🙂 They essentially now have a general airflow physics sandbox here, with CFD being applied to the airflow at the environmental/macro level 10+km (i.e. weather, thermals/drafts, turbulence, etc), close to the aircraft surfaces at the 10cm-100cm level (this is what directly determines the flying characteristics of a particular aircraft), at the 10m-10km dist (i.e. wake turbulence), at the particle level, etc. All this airflow simulation coupled with the revamped ground handling physics (for all types of terrain including water) is going to provide for a great overall experience looks like. The key to making this work, and what was missing in MSFS 2020, is to have a detailed and flexible way to model aircraft geometry in the sim (aircraft fuselages and wings of any type and quantity, engines, other aircraft surfaces, soft body objects, etc) and then the CFD system just goes to work simulating the various airflows, and interactions between various airflows. That ultimately then determines how an aircraft flies, whether it's a small GA bird, or airilner, or helicopter, or glider, or balloon.. it also determines how other objects' physics behave in this overall system and how they in turn impact the aircraft flight dynamics (i.e. cargo that a heli is carrying, banners, etc), etc etc. The beauty of using CFD for everything is that there is no need to have separate simulations for different airflows or characteristics of flight, and the interactions of different kinds of airflows now get simulated naturally. It also makes the aircraft FM development process easier I'm guessing, given that devs can define their aircraft 3D geometry model with much more accuracy and precision, then throw them into the CFD system and effectively have something that flies like it should, and then do adjustments and fine tuning to flesh out the FM (rather than the old way of developing FMs). This is also maybe why Asobo/WT, iniBuilds, etc are able to churn out aircraft more quickly. Some noteable examples with videos: airflow around an airliner and wake turbulence: https://youtu.be/fp4a3hPwP4s?t=1158 helicopter airflow: https://youtu.be/fp4a3hPwP4s?t=1232 how CFD simulates the complex interactions of airflows i.e. this one looks amazing with a heli's airflows interacting with smoke (particles): https://youtu.be/fp4a3hPwP4s?t=1487 And that was just the physics part.. then there's all the avionics improvements (on top of the stellar high fidelity ones we already have in 2020), more complex systems, wear & tear, new flight planner, aviation activities/missions ... substantial improvements to the digital twin earth rendering, incredible ground detail (that also goes hand in hand with the new ground handling, i.e. even the little cracks on a runway/tarmac are modelled as 3D and impacts handling!), biomes, etc ... new atmospheric engine and photometric lighting ... realistic depiction of clouds and thickness, storms, wind shear, and much more. Edited October 18, 20241 yr by lwt1971 Len 1980s: Sublogic FS II on C64 ---> 1990s: Flight Unlimited I/II, MSFS 95/98 ---> 2000s/2010s: FS/X, P3D, XP ---> 2020+: MSFS Current system: i9 13900K, RTX 4090, 64GB DDR5 4800 RAM, 4TB NVMe SSD
October 18, 20241 yr @lwt1971 I'm glad I wasn't drinking anything when they showed the smoke demo! Lol. Really amazing stuff is headed our way. Safe to say that 2024 will be the most advanced physics showcase in the flight sim world. 5800X3D. 32 GB RAM. 1TB SATA SSD. 3TB HDD. RX 9070XT.
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