3 hours ago, dzmitry said:

All looks reeeeally nice. Strange that they didn't upload this presentation earlier. I have a concern however - looking at the bit with smoke simulation, have you noticed how unstable the helicopter was?

Very likely that helicopter was being moved around on purpose to stimulate the smoke particles and show the various interactions of the various airflows?
 

Edited October 18, 20241 yr by lwt1971

23 minutes ago, lwt1971 said:

Very likely that helicopter was being moved around on purpose to stimulate the smoke particles and show the various interactions of the various airflows?
 

This.

Now concerning what I said about dropping Navigraph and dealing with third party support, I'll tell you that if I was a third party dev and the platform offered a robust flight planning and chart solution that is freely available to EVERYBODY, I'd be insane not to make my product compatible with it.

10 hours ago, lwt1971 said:

Some noteable examples with videos

Looking good! And they even had Mickey Mouse on the front row 🤣 (sorry, couldn't resist).

I really hope the EFB is moddable, the Sky4Sim dev might look into it if possible to help improve it. That way if it's missing key features they could be added in by modders, if not there's that reliance on hoping Asobo do it or alternatively use Sky4Sim for features that the default hasn't got, which wouldn't be ideal.

Loving the particle effects (which were disabled for the global preview flights) - Seb mentioned rain will be modelled as well - hopefully that will apply to sea water and snow also.

The EFB and Nav data also looks very promising 

12 hours ago, lwt1971 said:

Man oh man the physics improvements in so many aspects of the sim that Seb walks through starting around here https://youtu.be/fp4a3hPwP4s?t=962 ... wish they had let him talk even longer 🙂 

They essentially now have a general airflow physics sandbox here, with CFD being applied to the airflow at the environmental/macro level 10+km (i.e. weather, thermals/drafts, turbulence, etc), close to the aircraft surfaces at the 10cm-100cm level (this is what directly determines the flying characteristics of a particular aircraft), at the 10m-10km dist (i.e. wake turbulence), at the particle level, etc. All this airflow simulation coupled with the revamped ground handling physics (for all types of terrain including water) is going to provide for a great overall experience looks like.

The key to making this work, and what was missing in MSFS 2020, is to have a detailed and flexible way to model aircraft geometry in the sim (aircraft fuselages and wings of any type and quantity, engines, other aircraft surfaces, soft body objects, etc) and then the CFD system just goes to work simulating the various airflows, and interactions between various airflows. That ultimately then determines how an aircraft flies, whether it's a small GA bird, or airilner, or helicopter, or glider, or balloon.. it also determines how other objects' physics behave in this overall system and how they in turn impact the aircraft flight dynamics (i.e. cargo that a heli is carrying, banners, etc), etc etc. The beauty of using CFD for everything is that there is no need to have separate simulations for different airflows or characteristics of flight, and the interactions of different kinds of airflows now get simulated naturally.

It also makes the aircraft FM development process easier I'm guessing, given that devs can define their aircraft 3D geometry model with much more accuracy and precision, then throw them into the CFD system and effectively have something that flies like it should, and then do adjustments and fine tuning to flesh out the FM (rather than the old way of developing FMs). This is also maybe why Asobo/WT, iniBuilds, etc are able to churn out aircraft more quickly.

Some noteable examples with videos:

• airflow around an airliner and wake turbulence: https://youtu.be/fp4a3hPwP4s?t=1158
• helicopter airflow: https://youtu.be/fp4a3hPwP4s?t=1232
• how CFD simulates the complex interactions of airflows i.e. this one looks amazing with a heli's airflows interacting with smoke (particles): https://youtu.be/fp4a3hPwP4s?t=1487

And that was just the physics part.. then there's all the avionics improvements (on top of the stellar high fidelity ones we already have in 2020), more complex systems, wear & tear, new flight planner, aviation activities/missions ... substantial improvements to the digital twin earth rendering, incredible ground detail (that also goes hand in hand with the new ground handling, i.e. even the little cracks on a runway/tarmac are modelled as 3D and impacts handling!), biomes, etc ... new atmospheric engine and photometric lighting ... realistic depiction of clouds and thickness, storms, wind shear, and much more.
 

Another EXCELLENT Résumé LWT !!!! Thanks !!!!

I'm sold !

Just bought  my pre-order : Standard Edition because there's the investment in Condorsoaring 3 comming in October 26 🙂

Anyway... IT'S A WINNER MSFS 2024 !!!

Edited October 18, 20241 yr by jcomm

13 hours ago, Krakin said:

Yeah I'm definitely dropping my Navigraph sub. The default planning tool is looking incredible.

I agree about the planner. But I need more info about the charts. I think I read somewhere that the charts will be LIDO, which are very nice but geared more to airline operations since they come from Lufthansa. Many of us fly smaller aircraft into smaller airports that LIDO doesn't have, but Navigraph does. Maybe my understanding is incorrect.

While I really like Navigraph and their constant updates and innovations, I would like to keep as much as possible "in sim" and hope we can learn more about the charts. In any case, we will do so in just about a month.

Edited October 18, 20241 yr by ricka47

13 hours ago, micstatic said:

How are you going to do that?  All the payware airplanes charts etc still powered by navigraph

ASOBO will buy Navigraph 😁

6 hours ago, ahsmatt7 said:

I’m confused. Wasn’t the Grand Canyon showcase already talked about? Or was that at FSexpo?

This has more details but yes this was the GCN global preview event.  I don't think we've seen all the footage from this yet, at least I hadn't.

Plane rentals from the market place is going to be an absolute game changer for me. No more wasting money on mediocre addon aircraft. 
 

This sim will be incredible! Bravo!

Amazing.

If they pull this off, GA (in particular bush-flying) will be elevated into a completely new standards.

Just one month away now. 😀

 

12 hours ago, Fielder said:

1989 fs4 was a classic! The 1st great edition. You could download addons. Tons of them! ++

There was a BBS in my city dedicated to FS4 addons. I had a 2400 baud modem which was so slow that when you loaded a text page, you could watch the text being downloaded line by line. Sometimes I'm still amazed that it used to take me several hours to download a wireframe airplane and now I get annoyed if a PMDG update takes more than a minute to install.

 

Great presentation!   But...  was I asleep when Jörg presented the brand new ATC?  I will have to watch it all again.

1 minute ago, jetlag said:

Great presentation!   But...  was I asleep when Jörg presented the brand new ATC?  I will have to watch it all again.

That was not Jörg. THAT was the new ATC KI!!!

1 hour ago, ryanbatc said:

This has more details but yes this was the GCN global preview event.  I don't think we've seen all the footage from this yet, at least I hadn't.

I don't think *any* footage of the MS/Asobo's presentation itself has been shown before, and the content creators and media folks who went didn't share any clips either (likely due to NDA), but of course they did write about it in their articles. This is the first time I'm seeing any footage of the actual presentation at least.
 

Edited October 18, 20241 yr by lwt1971