Hi,

As stated, she is available.

Known Errors and Limitations

General
We are still having occasional out of memory issues when using AMD graphic cards. We are in contact with AMD to resolve this as soon as possible.

ATC
You may receive unnecessarily complicated vectors during non ILS approaches, especially when using smaller aircraft.

Fixes and Enhancements

General
Some additional stability improvements (XPD-16335 / XPD-16357 / XPD-16258 / XPD-16307)
Fixed a crash when opening IOS with the F-14 (XPD-16352)
Fixed an error in the German translation (XPD-16244)
Some improvements around the X-Plane Identity login screen

ATC
Provide spoken vectors at the end of a STAR without a runway transition (XPD-16351)
Pushback request will get cancelled if no pushback is available (XPD-16345)
Fixed incorrect handoffs on cross country flights (XPD-16346)
Inappropriate ‘runway blocked’ message after clearing another aircraft to line up (XPD-16348)
Improved parsing of different STAR formats when entering a flight plan (XPD-16305)
Wrong APPCH name when arriving on an airway that wasn’t explicitly listed (XPD-16306)Fixed several crashes
AI Aircraft
AI aircraft don’t use displaced threshold for take-off (XPD-16264)

Linux
Fixed a crash when resizing the X-Plane window and using Wayland (XPD-16358)

Edited December 6, 20241 yr by Mike_CFII_MEL

4 hours ago, Mike_CFII_MEL said:

You may receive unnecessarily complicated vectors during non ILS approaches, especially when using smaller aircraft.

Yes, not just overly complicated but also very long unnecessary diversions. Does this mean they're going to fix this, or rather is it just a limitation that we're going to have to accept)

1 hour ago, tonywob said:

Does this mean they're going to fix this

No they will leave it like that just to annoy you. im sure. I cant even consider the difficulties in doing all this. Should be getting our thanks for all the hard work not continuous complaints, of course if you have a brilliant solution im sure thy will be all ears.

1 hour ago, mjrhealth said:

No they will leave it like that just to annoy you. im sure. I cant even consider the difficulties in doing all this. Should be getting our thanks for all the hard work not continuous complaints, of course if you have a brilliant solution im sure thy will be all ears.

Your answer would have been rude to everyone, let alone to @tonywob who is the kindest person I know in the whole Avsim! Completely out of place.

7 hours ago, Mike_CFII_MEL said:

General
We are still having occasional out of memory issues when using AMD graphic cards. We are in contact with AMD to resolve this as soon as possible.

ATC
You may receive unnecessarily complicated vectors during non ILS approaches, especially when using smaller aircraft.

One thing I can say about is that they are being transparent about these issue and hopefully will have a fix soon. Good to know as a heads up on what to expect. 

35 minutes ago, Murmur said:

Your answer would have been rude to everyone, let alone to @tonywob who is the kindest person I know in the whole Avsim! Completely out of place.

Heh, I'm used to it. The internet is full of people like this who are looking for a fight and get offended/upset by everything, it says more about them than it does anything else. 

Anybody having problems with  the map not refreshing?

2 hours ago, tonywob said:

Je, ya me he acostumbrado. Internet está lleno de gente así que busca pelea y se ofende o molesta por todo. Eso dice más de ellos que de cualquier otra cosa. 

It is true that we live angry with each other on a daily basis, it is very sad.

5 hours ago, mjrhealth said:

No they will leave it like that just to annoy you. im sure. I cant even consider the difficulties in doing all this. Should be getting our thanks for all the hard work not continuous complaints, of course if you have a brilliant solution im sure thy will be all ears.

FSHUD, BATC come to my mind as much more effective, polished solutions, including the interaction with, and even their autonomous injection of believable AI Traffic (another long requested feature for XP) ...

Both unfortunately not available for XP, and the alternatives I've used with XP, with maybe the exception of Pilot2ATC...

And there's AutoATC, but I didn't yet have the chance to try that one...

And no, it's not because they (MS) have a BIG software dev behind (ASOBO) because both (FSHUD and BATC) are almost 1-dev apps...

Edited December 6, 20241 yr by jcomm

52 minutes ago, jcomm said:

And there's AutoATC, but I didn't yet have the chance to try that one...

getting nailbitingly close now, current dev blog is here

https://forums.x-plane.org/index.php?/forums/topic/308618-autoatc-issues-and-discussion/

non procedural IFR vectors (e.g. KORD) started passing their current tests last week (still failing some), currently working on applying all the new frequency switching stuff (mostly around class A FIRs), and more realistic airspace clearnences generally.

We've been using the AutoATC transcripter a little to help Jim recreate/track issues

https://autoatc.zem-solutions.com/Transcriptor.html

That does in browser parsing of X-Plane ATC_Log.txt and AutoATC logs to give you a text transcript of the flight and place the coms/route on a map (often things start going wrong well before you actually notice them)

6 hours ago, tonywob said:

Heh, I'm used to it. The internet is full of people like this who are looking for a fight and get offended/upset by everything, it says more about them than it does anything else. 

No, i just have a lot of respect for the people who are putting in the time and effort to make xplane better, and as stated, i seriously have no idea of how complicated ATC must be to get it to do what it does, but never thanks, always complaints. But that is the way the world is today.

1 hour ago, mjrhealth said:

No, i just have a lot of respect for the people who are putting in the time and effort to make xplane better

Just what do you think TONY has been doing for years.... 

@mjrhealth Imagine how complicated it must be to design and build a CPU.
When a consumer goes to the store to buy a microprocessor, they never think about "I wonder how difficult it was to make it".
The consumer wants only one thing: that the item works perfectly.
If after buying the object, even if it only cost 10 dollars, the consumer discovers that that CPU makes miscalculations because it is buggy, I have serious doubts that he would thank the team.

Its all a matter of words, can you imagine how the conversation would have gone if it had started with, This beta ATC release has really improved ATC, thanks Laminar, I do hope they can solve this extended landing problem,". I would have 100% agreed and we wouldnt be here. But thanking people for hard work seems to be a thing of the past.

36 minutes ago, efis007 said:

CPU makes miscalculations because it is buggy

You do know we are human beings, and we are all a little buggy.

1 hour ago, mjrhealth said:

Its all a matter of words, can you imagine how the conversation would have gone if it had started with, This beta ATC release has really improved ATC, thanks Laminar

This would have been the case if the ATC bug to be fixed was a recent report from a few weeks ago.
In that case, the team would have been thanked for fixing the problem (even if partially) in a sufficiently short time.

Unfortunately, however, the faulty ATC has been a reported problem for more than 10 years (and the dark panels for 7 years), and today after all this time and several versions/patches released, the team has not yet completely solved the problem.
The consumer does not have infinite patience, after 10 years of waiting I think that the limit of patience has been far exceeded, so in my opinion customers are fully entitled to criticize the Laminar team.
If the Laminars team wants to receive thanks, they must fix (now, and quickly) all the well-known problems that Xplane has been suffering from for a very long time.

A premise: I personally am not interested in the integrated ATC, I can also fly without ATC using the charts, so I am not part of the chorus of dissatisfied customers who criticize Xplane for the imperfect ATC.