January 2, 20251 yr Author This popped up in my YT feed today: What they talk about, is that turning off certain monitoring items in MSI Afterburner can improve performance. In particular GPU and CPU power sensors. The creator of the video mentions the following: Quote This is NOT exclusive to MSI Afterburner. It happens with CapFrameX and HWInfo too, as per the CFX dev. CapFrameX informed me that it's an issue with the NVAPI. The GPU in the video is a 4090. Also, my 12700K and 14600KF do not exhibit the same issue as my 7800X3D with MSI Afterburner, and I believe it is due to the e-cores. It could be that the issue is less pronounced on the 7950X3D and similar dual chiplet CPU's (twice the number of cores). I haven't tested this the usual way with CapFrameX, but doing a test flight now. It seems to me that there are fewer spikes on the frametime graph i.e. fewer stutters. Even when there are stutters, they seem "milder" than usual. I also disabled all the sensors that aren't in the OSD (by unticking them - see red box that I added in screenshot below): Edited January 2, 20251 yr by Cpt_Piett 7950X3D | RTX 4090 | 64GB DDR5
January 2, 20251 yr It should be a good sign that the majority are getting same or better performance at the beginning of 2024’s cycle. After a few rounds of optimization, and hopefully a good FSR integration, performance will be outstanding. i910900k, RTX 3090, 32GB DDR4 RAM, AW3423DW, Ruddy girt big mug of Yorkshire Tea
January 2, 20251 yr Author I've been giving myself a massive headache trying to troubleshoot VRAM overflow (with a 4090!) and terrible stutters overflying certain PG-areas. So far, the LA area has been the worst. Approach Asobo's KLAX from the east, it's a word not allowed stutterfest. AutoFPS cannot save the day. Even with a TLOD of 100, there are severe stutters. Also - 99% of the 24GB VRAM available on my 4090 was being used at times. Solution: I first disabled PG - significantly better, but still severe stutters on final approach. With both PG + Asobo's KLAX disabled, performance was great. I wonder how many other areas in the sim are like this? I guess I'll try Asobo's Heathrow next. 7950X3D | RTX 4090 | 64GB DDR5
January 2, 20251 yr 26 minutes ago, Cpt_Piett said: I've been giving myself a massive headache trying to troubleshoot VRAM overflow (with a 4090!) and terrible stutters overflying certain PG-areas. So far, the LA area has been the worst. Approach Asobo's KLAX from the east, it's a word not allowed stutterfest. I confirm this observation I made a KLAX/ILS 25R approach with the 737 Max Asobo and KLAX MSFS. From 200 Ft, I switched to slide mode for: landing, taxiing, RWY exit and there I stopped !!! • Intel Core i7 12700KF • MSI PRO Z690-A DDR4 • RAM : 2 x 32 Go (64 Go) - DDR4 3200 MHz - CL14 • MSI GeForce RTX 3090 Ventus 3X 24G Edited January 2, 20251 yr by Area Config : AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D - MSI PRO B850-S WIFI6E - RAM G.Skill 2 x 32 Go DDR5 6000 MHz CL30 - MSI GeForce RTX 5080 16G VENTUS 3X OC PLUS - 2 WQHD (2560x1440) screens and only one of which is for MSFS
January 2, 20251 yr 50 minutes ago, Cpt_Piett said: I've been giving myself a massive headache trying to troubleshoot VRAM overflow (with a 4090!) and terrible stutters overflying certain PG-areas. So far, the LA area has been the worst. Approach Asobo's KLAX from the east, it's a word not allowed stutterfest. AutoFPS cannot save the day. Even with a TLOD of 100, there are severe stutters. Also - 99% of the 24GB VRAM available on my 4090 was being used at times. Yeah, I hope they get this sorted out soon.
January 2, 20251 yr Author London Heathrow, PG enabled, default Asobo handcrafted (or is it bespoke?). Very good performance overflying the city center at 3000ft then on approach to rwy 27R. At least until 4nm final - then a stutterfest. So I'm guessing there's performance issues with Asobo's EGLL as well. For some reason I got stutters taking off from LFAC in France, which is not a very dense area. Strange! At least London's PG seems better optimized than LA. EDIT: I'm not doing any CapFrameX tests here. Just using MSI Afterburner sensors + RTSS overlay to monitor the frame time graph for spikes. In this particular flight, there were quite a few spikes overflying London, but not too bad in terms of stutters. Edited January 2, 20251 yr by Cpt_Piett 7950X3D | RTX 4090 | 64GB DDR5
January 2, 20251 yr Author Sorry for the post spam. I tried London again after disabling handcrafted EGLL. Approach from the east was a stutterfest as I got close to the airport. But strangely not so much over the CBD. So it might be that London PG is not as bad as LA. But I suspect that PG is the culprit here. Next: ILS approach 27L/R with PG disabled. It'll be interesting to hear if other people are having issues with Asobo handcrafted airports and PG - it doesn't look very good so far in my testing! EDIT: VRAM was almost fully used when overflying PG-London. This might be a trend - even a 4090 w/ 24GB cannot handle huge metropolitan PG-areas. EDIT2: Performance is much better without PG and Asobo-EGLL. Next: Asobo EDDF vs Aerosoft EDDF - without PG (don't even know if Frankfurt has PG). Edited January 2, 20251 yr by Cpt_Piett 7950X3D | RTX 4090 | 64GB DDR5
January 2, 20251 yr 29 minutes ago, Cpt_Piett said: This might be a trend - even a 4090 w/ 24GB cannot handle huge metropolitan PG-areas. That is just bonkers.
January 2, 20251 yr Author 1 hour ago, Cpt_Piett said: Next: Asobo EDDF vs Aerosoft EDDF - without PG (don't even know if Frankfurt has PG). Aerosoft performs a bit worse than Asobo handcrafted EDDF. Not much of a difference though. No VRAM overflow (PG disabled)- seems that this happens in those huge metro PG-areas e.g. London and LA. I suspect something weird is happening with MSFS2024 PG and some handcrafted airports 🧐 Edited January 2, 20251 yr by Cpt_Piett 7950X3D | RTX 4090 | 64GB DDR5
January 2, 20251 yr I personally am doing much better than 2020, 2020 was killing me in the main thread. My computer is very modest i7 11700, 3060ti and 16 GB of RAM. The key as I said in another thread I think is to have a fast and stable connection and logically the server responds well.
January 2, 20251 yr Your conclusion in accord with mine Agios77. Your computer specs also similar to mine.
January 3, 20251 yr On 12/30/2024 at 1:21 PM, Sethos said: So at least on a 9800X3D, I wouldn't suggest enabling Game Mode. I've been thinking of building a new setup with a 9800X3D - I'm an intel guy but not from what I've read lately AMD is way to go for many reasons now I have intel I9 10900k - water cooled - 64 GIG of ram - Asus RTX 4080 Supper OC - 48" Samsung OLED - its working well but would I notice a huge difference with that AMD chip ? bunch of money so thought I ask - thanks Edited January 3, 20251 yr by Richard Sennett Rich Sennett
January 3, 20251 yr Just read this over at MSFS Forums Nothings ever easy with Flightsim - chase chase the prefect experience X3D chips are useless in this game since the game is using cores,not cache Edited January 3, 20251 yr by Richard Sennett Rich Sennett
January 3, 20251 yr 35 minutes ago, Richard Sennett said: Just read this over at MSFS Forums Nothings ever easy with Flightsim - chase chase the prefect experience X3D chips are useless in this game since the game is using cores,not cache I have a 4090 with a 7950X3D and 64 gigs of ram, I've had it for a while now. I'm lucky enough to upgrade whenever I please. I've been building and upgrading for FS since the early 90's I have no thoughts about upgrading at this point. For me FPS is a non issue in FS2020 or 2024. For me its all about microstutters while using my TRackIR, which isn't that much of an issue either. I'm a happy camper, a lot happier than the usual with my rig and a new release of MSFS Floyd Stolle www.stollco.com
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