25 minutes ago, Cpt_Piett said:

but overall the FPS is better on the 5080 because of DLSS4.

they all will have DLSS 4, even the older RTX 20, 30 and 40. that's why I will wait and see. if it is similarly enhanced quality like AMD's new FSR4, that could be interesting.

 

Edited January 14, 20251 yr by turbomax

8 minutes ago, Cpt_Piett said:

YT'ers are saying that the raw performance for the 4090 is better than the 5080

I will wait and see what the first REAL tests will show.

9 minutes ago, Cpt_Piett said:

Is it though? This is what Jensen claims, but a lot of tech YT'ers are saying that the raw performance for the 4090 is better than the 5080 - but overall the FPS is better on the 5080 because of DLSS4. Or did I get that wrong?

17 minutes ago, Cpt_Piett said:

That's 4080 vs 5070. Here's 4090 vs 5080:

They are a bit closer to each other. Guess it depends on the prices and also (a bit) on the multi-FG option (which only the 5080 offers). Looking at this chart the 4090 seems a better choice if you are going for raw power and forget about FG and AI.

even the 5090's raw raster, non CUDA core based performance is expected to be only 30% higher than the 4090, which I expect to boil down to only 15-20% fps in-game increase in MSFS. again, MSFS is not Cyberpunk with path tracing and what have you.

between 5080 and 4090: clock speeds are similar, memory and number of CUDA cores are 50% higher on the 4090.  2.5 GHz clock speeds seem to have reached the limit now using current chip technology and structures. I think Nvidia can only increase the AI and CUDA core performance.

lets wait until January 31st when the 5090 benchmark NDAs fall.  

Edited January 14, 20251 yr by turbomax

4 minutes ago, turbomax said:

MSFS is not Cyberpunk with path tracing and what have you.

Yet.

unfortunately. but people already complain about scenery designer efforts "wasted" on detailed terminal interior when ATC and AI are still lacking.

where future GPUs could really shine is once their AI technology is "ab"-used to generate plausible AI traffic, instead of only AI based characters or opponents.

Edited January 14, 20251 yr by turbomax

I never removed MSFS2020 from my system. I really want MSFS2024 to be my "fly or die" but the low bandwidth issue is a buzz kill. Even with an ethernet cable, my ability to get past this is negligible. But...I'm patient

I see the title of this and think, what is this "we" stuff about putting MFS 2020 back on our hard drive?  Like it has to be a group decision or a protest statement instead of just the personal preference it already is?  Are we all gonna have to start going to the ladies room together to go pee  after this? 😁

40 minutes ago, Stoopy said:

Are we all gonna have to start going to the ladies room together

we don't have to, just the personal preference it already is.

Meh. I've kept 2020 knowing 2024 would have some uh...things happen. So far, I basically fly 2020 vs 2024. Me using 2024 is rare. Controls deleted, bugs, CTD's (all default).

3 hours ago, mistolip said:

That's 4080 vs 5070. Here's 4090 vs 5080:

They are a bit closer to each other. Guess it depends on the prices and also (a bit) on the multi-FG option (which only the 5080 offers). Looking at this chart the 4090 seems a better choice if you are going for raw power and forget about FG and AI.

As far as the new card? I just got a 4090ti like 3 months ago. No real need to upgrade for a long time any way. Most games will do just fine with a 4090ti for the next several years. Plus, most flight sims are CPU-dependent.

I love FG because when using Track IR the buttery good smoothness (or lackthereof if using heavy settings lol) is soooooo noticable.

After seeing vram usage in 2024 I wish Nvidia would have done 24 GB for the 5080.  

Getting tht 5090 would be a good idea for the unoptimized 2024 haha.  Maybe they'll work on it.

Most flights  in 2024 peg my vram especially if using third party airports.

Edited January 14, 20251 yr by ryanbatc

9 hours ago, mistolip said:

nVidia 5000 cards but I sometimes get the idea it's great for pushing your shown FPS to the limit but that it doesn't necessarily make performance smoother.