7 minutes ago, JBDB-MD80 said:

Wrap it up folks I seriously doubt this Q400 by Majestic will ever release for MSFS. Too much on their plate right now. Its time for another developer to step in. It will certainly not be Majestic level of simulation but it will give the users something to work with.

I still have P3D V5 installed and occasional still fly the Majestic Q400 to keep in practice and enjoy the fantastic simulation, sounds, everything about it. 

Need that level of simulation or better for MSFS...

2 hours ago, kevinfirth said:

Glad to see my comment over at Majestic precipitated a response, which contains some good and bad info....

 

Have just seen your follow up response on their forum and agree totally with your comment. Would happily do the same to get it moving again.

1 hour ago, abrams_tank said:

Hi, is it easier to find a decent 3D modeler for an MSFS project, over finding a decent programmer who has knowledge about aviation and developing planes for MSFS? 

 

Well at FBW we have loads(relatively) of programmers but as for modellers we have a limited amount that can achieve the fidelity we’re looking for.

I don’t know what the paid market is like but that’s just our experience.

Frankly the modeling was always the one part of the plane that needed the most work. Majestic was either insulted or implied legal reasons last year when we asked why not work with another developer to get the ball over the goal line. Question still remains. 

Somebody will step in to do a decent Q400 if Majestic doesn't do it.  This is an odd decision by Majestic not to prioritize the development of their Q400, given that if you wait too long and you are too slow, you end up like Aerosoft with the A330, and FSLabs with their A321, where a competitor simply walks in and takes the market.  There is also the case with QualityWings where Working Title simply did a much better version of the 787 (plus the Horizon and Kuro add-ons that built on top of the Working Title 787). And of course, PMDG was slow with their 737 Max and another competitor walked in to take that market. Majestic should really look at what happened to the developers that are too slow and how much money those developers likely lost because they were slow.

If Majestic is slow, I think somebody else will do a decent Q400 for MSFS.  I think it's just a matter of time. 

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9 minutes ago, micstatic said:

Frankly the modeling was always the one part of the plane that needed the most work. Majestic was either insulted or implied legal reasons last year when we asked why not work with another developer to get the ball over the goal line. Question still remains. 

100% agree.  Giving another developer a percentage of the profits to help with the 3D modeling is a no brainer, because it's much better than zero profits, or even worse, a net loss because Majestic spent a lot of time and resources converting what they have so far.

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2 hours ago, Dusk said:

MSFS 2020 was first announced at E3 of June 2019 I believe, so it does seem to me that Majestic have no real commitment to the conversion of the Q400 to MSFS despite their statement. I agree that finding a capable 3D modeler should not be a difficult task, so assume there are other reasons that are more financially based.

What a shame.

 

Oh I'm going to disagree. I've asked a couple of contacts if they'd be willing to share their trusted 3D modellers to aid Majestic, and without exception the response has universally been - "no" "not a chance" etc etc.  Reminds me of the flock of seagulls in Madagascar (film)... "Mine, mine, mine, mine!!" 🤣

9 hours ago, regis9 said:

Sorry, didn't mean to say 3D modelling is easy or simple on it's own , just that it's more a broadly available than people who know how to program high fidelity systems etc for a flight simulator aircraft.  Hopefully Majestic can partner with the people who have that skill set.

I'll put it this way, look at how many nicely modelled, but very systems light aircraft there are available versus the opposite.

3d.modelling in general yes, 3d modelling for MSFS, in terms of specialist knowledge, productivity and reliability...seems they are rarer than a snowy grass block in Minecraft.

Hey! Maybe Carenado or CaptainSim will make a Dash? 😉

Is it true Just Flight had a poll recently including the Dash? 

Would FlyJSim ever think about porting something over? 

I heard talks about Majestic before 2020 was released and that honestly got me excited for 2020 in the first place. Oh how times have changed

1 minute ago, Sonosusto said:

Maybe Carenado or CaptainSim will make a Dash?

Oooh yes! With no interior modelling or a default 747 panel? 🤣🤣🤣

Just now, kevinfirth said:

Oooh yes! With no interior modelling or a default 747 panel? 🤣🤣🤣

🤣🤣

Seriously going to remove Majestic from memory here involving MS 2020/2024. Just Flight would be excellent. Their F28/Fokker, Bae146/RJ etc are probably the best planes in MS IMO. There are several other excellent developers though. I dont have the Maddog and will wait for either discount or updated textures before I take the plunge. Older planes are just so much fun for flight sim. 

How can we convince Just Flight? 🤔

13 minutes ago, kevinfirth said:

Oh I'm going to disagree. I've asked a couple of contacts if they'd be willing to share their trusted 3D modellers to aid Majestic, and without exception the response has universally been - "no" "not a chance" etc etc.  Reminds me of the flock of seagulls in Madagascar (film)... "Mine, mine, mine, mine!!" 🤣

Wow, if the 3d modelers you referred to Majestic are actually that good and reliable, but Majestic was too stubborn to even contact them (given their current modeler is AWOL), that's really unfortunate.  At the moment, there is no known  3rd party developer that is eying the Q400 "publicly", but there may be a 3rd party developer working on a Q400 privately.

A lot of this stuff we don't know until the announcement. Like iniBuilds had been working on the A330 for MSFS 2024 for some time, but Aerosoft didn't know.  And then the bomb dropped when the MSFS team announced that the A330 would be coming to MSFS 2024 from iniBuilds.  Same with Working Title's 787 - one day, they just announce that Working Title has made the 787 way better, and then the door kind of closed on QualityWings.  This is why you can't sit forever, something that Majestic seems to be doing.

3 minutes ago, Sonosusto said:

Just Flight would be excellent. Their F28/Fokker, Bae146/RJ etc are probably the best planes in MS IMO. There are several other excellent developers though.

The irony is, if there is a developer secretly working on a decent Q400, it's in their interest to stay quiet about it, because they don't want to ring the alarm bell for Majestic. Whoever that developer is, just stay quiet and let Majestic be complacent - they want Majestic to continue the same pace of development they are at now.  Then when that developer's Q400 is ready to release, just make the announcement and drop it on the market, and it will be too late for Majestic to react.

 

13 minutes ago, Sonosusto said:

Would FlyJSim ever think about porting something over? 

I heard talks about Majestic before 2020 was released and that honestly got me excited for 2020 in the first place. Oh how times have changed

FlyJSim would be great.  They could make a ton of money over in MSFS with many of the unique products in their catalog.