4 hours ago, Bigmack said:

Drug test needed here?

Given the acceptance of melted building and the jungle world, I think drugs must be involved with MSFS flights. 🙂

1 hour ago, CO2Neutral said:

Dada la aceptación de los edificios derretidos y del mundo selvático, creo que las drogas deben estar involucradas en los vuelos de MSFS.🙂

It's funny yesterday flying in 2024 I said to myself that with this scenario you could build a 3d Project Zombid on a global scale.🤣

15 hours ago, Aglos77 said:

Didn't they say that MFS default aircraft are up to A2A ?

"They"? Who said this?

2 hours ago, CO2Neutral said:

Given the acceptance of melted building and the jungle world, I think drugs must be involved with MSFS flights. 🙂

The photogrammetry varies. Some cities are not as good and look more melted, but some locations look decent like Berlin:

In any case, if you claim P3D is better than Berlin above, feel free to post video showing Berlin in P3D vs Berlin in MSFS 2024 from around the same height, which looks like about 500 feet to 1000 feet in the MSFS 2024 video above.

I did a quick search of Youtube and this is what I found for Berlin in P3D at the 20:11 mark, which looks to be at a comparable height, albeit, it doesn't look like P3D version 6:

If you have a better video that shows Berlin in P3D from 500 to 1000 feet above, feel free to post it.

As for outside of cities, if you claim that P3D comes close to looking as good as MSFS 2024 outside of cities, well, I would be very skeptical of that.  Here is what MSFS 2024 is capable of generating for locations outside of cities:

No add-ons required for all those locations outside of cities in MSFS 2024.

Edited February 24, 20251 yr by abrams_tank

1 hour ago, abrams_tank said:

La fotogrametría varía. Algunas ciudades no son tan buenas y parecen más derretidas, pero algunos lugares se ven decentes, como Berlín:

En cualquier caso, si afirmas que P3D es mejor que Berlín arriba, no dudes en publicar un video que muestre Berlín en P3D vs. Berlín en MSFS 2024 desde aproximadamente la misma altura, que parece alrededor de 500 a 1000 pies en el video MSFS 2024 arriba.

Hice una búsqueda rápida en Youtube y esto es lo que encontré para Berlín en P3D en la marca 20:11, que parece estar a una altura comparable, aunque no parece la versión 6 de P3D:

Si tienes un vídeo mejor que muestre Berlín en P3D desde 500 a 1000 pies de altura, no dudes en publicarlo.

En cuanto a las zonas fuera de las ciudades, si afirmas que P3D se acerca a verse tan bien como MSFS 2024 fuera de las ciudades, bueno, yo sería muy escéptico al respecto. Esto es lo que MSFS 2024 es capaz de generar para ubicaciones fuera de las ciudades:

No se requieren complementos para todas aquellas ubicaciones fuera de las ciudades en MSFS 2024.

Let's not lose the north. Actually to fly a Q400 you don't need neither PG nor any advanced scenario feature that can provide MFS, that really can be applied to any airliner, what do you do with an aircraft of this category flying over Berlin at low altitude?

8 minutes ago, Aglos77 said:

Let's not lose the north. Actually to fly a Q400 you don't need neither PG nor any advanced scenario feature that can provide MFS, that really can be applied to any airliner, what do you do with an aircraft of this category flying over Berlin at low altitude?

What are you talking about? Are you off tangent?  I was replying about the graphics between P3D and MSFS in reply to C02Neutral. 

Also, you didn't answer where you claim "they" say MSFS default aircraft are up to A2A standards. Who is "they"? This is what you wrote:

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Didn't they say that MFS default aircraft are up to A2A ?

 

Edited February 24, 20251 yr by abrams_tank

1 hour ago, abrams_tank said:

What are you talking about? Are you off tangent?  I was replying about the graphics between P3D and MSFS in reply to C02Neutral. 

Also, you didn't answer where you claim "they" say MSFS default aircraft are up to A2A standards. Who is "they"? This is what you wrote:

 

Man relax a little A2A is pure sarcasm, do not take life seriously, the moment someone criticizes a little MFS seems that the Asobo people lower their salaries, and what I'm talking about is clear I drive this thread back to the Q400 I really do not enjoy this bird for not having it in MFS saddens me more when extremely detailed airliners like this jewel do not need that detail of terrain. 

I don't have P3D because I can no longer afford another simulator financially, but I would buy it if I could along with this q400.

10 hours ago, Bigmack said:

Drug test needed here?

Or 3 special ophthalmologist exams? Perhaps, dude is clearly blind.

Edited February 24, 20251 yr by JBDB-MD80

Let's keep this civil folks.  And on topic.  

3 hours ago, abrams_tank said:

"They"? Who said this?

Nobody who knows anything about anything anytime anywhere that's who! 

I came here for the q400 discussion as I couldn't get it working properly in p3dv5 so hoping I'd have better luck with the msfs version. 

It looks like the Q400 project is stalled. I really hope some other developer is working on a study level Q400 and does the same what Fenix did to FSL.

On 2/24/2025 at 1:33 AM, sloppysmusic said:

couldn't get it working properly in p3dv5 so

Working fine for me in P3D V5 and V6.  Perhaps you need to list your issues?

I was just watching some youtube Q400 stuff in p3d to remind me of the plane.  While the lighting was a step back for sure, I actually am giving consideration to doing a mini p3d install for just canada, NE USA etc so I can fly the Q400.  But with all the helper addons that I had grown accustomed to in years past it seems like a massive chore.  Plus the visuals are a step back enough that I'm not sure it would be a total waste of my time.  But I am considering it.  I really wish majestic had gotten this plane by now to msfs so I wouldn't even have to consider this.  

17 minutes ago, micstatic said:

I was just watching some youtube Q400 stuff in p3d to remind me of the plane.  While the lighting was a step back for sure, I actually am giving consideration to doing a mini p3d install for just canada, NE USA etc so I can fly the Q400.  But with all the helper addons that I had grown accustomed to in years past it seems like a massive chore.  Plus the visuals are a step back enough that I'm not sure it would be a total waste of my time.  But I am considering it.  I really wish majestic had gotten this plane by now to msfs so I wouldn't even have to consider this.  

I did the p3d mini install on a separate machine with q400 on it. Flew only a couple of flights but the moment you open it up feels like you are in arcade game. Msfs majical realism I guess. P3d is dead along with q400. This is something MJ needs to look at. I was quite surprised to MJ releasing a window form based efb. What age they living in? 

Luckily posting it on avsim otherwise on MJ forum would have blocked as they don't like criticism not different from FSL mindset. 

21 minutes ago, micstatic said:

I was just watching some youtube Q400 stuff in p3d to remind me of the plane.  While the lighting was a step back for sure, I actually am giving consideration to doing a mini p3d install for just canada, NE USA etc so I can fly the Q400.  But with all the helper addons that I had grown accustomed to in years past it seems like a massive chore.  Plus the visuals are a step back enough that I'm not sure it would be a total waste of my time.  But I am considering it.  I really wish majestic had gotten this plane by now to msfs so I wouldn't even have to consider this.  

That would be nice if Majestic indeed get back into the game. According to their FSlite post, they're shorthanded but still working on it. I hate going back to PD3 to fly it so I won't forget everything about it. But what the heck if that's the only way to experience it, then that's what I'll do. There are planes in 2020 that I need to do the same that's not available in 2024 yet.