“Asobo is aware” is the most useless phrase to ever be spoken in the flightsim community.

We cannot blame anyone other than Asobo and their obsession with Meteouseless for the shortcomings of their ridiculous restrictions they have put on their weather engine. 
 

but it’s “nice” that they gave the keys to chaseplane for their camera api for MSFS2020, maybe there is a sliver of hope we will get it for their “outmoded” flightsim. 

21 minutes ago, AbrahamGR said:

Your narrative is convoluted. It's simpler:
I buy the product.
I try it (as many times as I want, not as many times as you tell me I should).
If it doesn't work, I report it so they can improve it, and maybe I'll ask for a refund, until it does.

P.S.: I've asked for refunds four times in my entire life. Not bad.

That my friend is called refund abuse. You don't get to just ask for a refund till it improves. Most T&CS you need to let them sort it out and if its not broken which most aren't they simply don't have to refund. Now you told everyone what you do. I would guess developers will not let you do refunds anymore. 

Maybe do research before purchasing like everyone else. I bet the bank/credit card company are really starting to watch the accounts you have before investigating further.

Edited April 7, 20251 yr by carlanthony24

56 minutes ago, carlanthony24 said:

That my friend is called refund abuse. You don't get to just ask for a refund till it improves. Most T&CS you need to let them sort it out and if its not broken which most aren't they simply don't have to refund. Now you told everyone what you do. I would guess developers will not let you do refunds anymore. 

Maybe do research before purchasing like everyone else. I bet the bank/credit card company are really starting to watch the accounts you have before investigating further.

Wow. What a novelistic mentality you have

The best weather for MSFS (or any flight simulator for that matter) is clear skies and calm winds. No struggling to keep the wings level or the plane pointing in the right direction. No clouds to interfere with your enjoyment of the scenery. Just nice, relaxed flying without any stress

14 hours ago, Christopher Low said:

The best weather for MSFS (or any flight simulator for that matter) is clear skies and calm winds. No struggling to keep the wings level or the plane pointing in the right direction. No clouds to interfere with your enjoyment of the scenery. Just nice, relaxed flying without any stress

To each, their own 😁

Default weather is best, the active sky software and xenviro just spawns different clouds abrupt with metar change..

9 hours ago, Cyrex1984 said:

Default weather is best, the active sky software and xenviro just spawns different clouds abrupt with metar change..

I agree with you.

On each flight I take new surprises when finally everything seems to be Smooth some clouds appear out of nowhere that surprise me.
I have varied all the options and the same thing always happens.
The wxradar is showing always white clouds, but i never see them. When its clear skies, the wxradar has clouds. 
if i zoom on its radar map, those clouds appear. If i zoom more, those clouds dissappear. 

i must say active sky is a wonderfull product for prepare3d. 

Sorry. 

 

 

On 4/7/2025 at 1:39 AM, UAL4life said:

Asobo is aware” is the most useless phrase to ever be spoken in the flightsim community.

What would you prefer it to be? Seems a straightforward phrase to me.

 

On 4/7/2025 at 1:39 AM, UAL4life said:

We cannot blame anyone other than Asobo and their obsession with Meteouseless for the shortcomings of their ridiculous restrictions they have put on their weather engine

You need to put some details in there so we know what you mean. What do you feel is useless about the weather provider? What restrictions are 'ridiculous'?

Have to admit MSFS 2024 weather is getting pretty darn good though.

 

 

On 4/7/2025 at 4:59 PM, Cyrex1984 said:

the active sky software just spawns different clouds abrupt with metar change..

No, METAR changes themselves do not trigger cloud updates, the system works much differently than that.  It's per periodic update interval, and that is smoothed unless you trigger an update manually/change an option, or have some kind of conflict with another weather add-on. We offer comprehensively controlled preset weather control with smoothing, and we have many more features than just changing the way clouds are depicted. It's not for everyone, but for many, they appreciate and support ASFS, and use it regularly, for many reasons.

We understand many really dislike us, our product, our existence, and the idea of any kind of weather add-on at all. The regular ASFS critics are already commenting. But, reality is, many feel differently, and actually do appreciate what we've done, and what we're doing. Imagine that.

15 hours ago, AbrahamGR said:

I agree with you.

On each flight I take new surprises when finally everything seems to be Smooth some clouds appear out of nowhere that surprise me.
I have varied all the options and the same thing always happens.
The wxradar is showing always white clouds, but i never see them. When its clear skies, the wxradar has clouds. 
if i zoom on its radar map, those clouds appear. If i zoom more, those clouds dissappear. 

i must say active sky is a wonderfull product for prepare3d. 

Sorry. 

 

 

As explained in the response to the support ticket you opened last night (thanks for that BTW), the ASFS weather map is a summary of weather limited by resolution, is intended for flight/weather planning and general weather summary, and is not supposed to be a detailed radar showing detailed cloud positions around you. ASFS does not include detailed radar.

We've been advocating for the ability for FS2020 and now FS2024 to allow weather radar functionality (that would enable such detailed radar). Perhaps they will add that in the future, and if so, we plan to take full advantage of it.

For conditions comparison, we recommend using the conditions page (no code entered) to get a detailed accurate representation of the intended depiction at the aircraft position, along with the data that shows why we decided to depict that way (interpolation sources, grib sourcces, etc).

On 4/8/2025 at 12:24 AM, Damian Clark said:

To each, their own 😁

To be fair, having completely clear skies does result in the terrain looking rather bright when the sun is high in the sky. I do like having clouds, but they tend to get in the way of looking at the scenery However, it is the way that my plane rocks around in even the slightest wind that irritates me. I could understand it if I was flying a small GA plane, but should a wind speed of 1 metre per second really make my Boeing 737 wobble around??

Edited April 9, 20251 yr by Christopher Low

9 hours ago, Christopher Low said:

To be fair, having completely clear skies does result in the terrain looking rather bright when the sun is high in the sky. I do like having clouds, but they tend to get in the way of looking at the scenery However, it is the way that my plane rocks around in even the slightest wind that irritates me. I could understand it if I was flying a small GA plane, but should a wind speed of 1 metre per second really make my Boeing 737 wobble around??

For me, when I sim, I'm not looking at scenery in general. I appreciate challenge, realistic weather, obstructions to visibility, etc. Most of what I do when I sim is practice challenging IFR procedures and approaches, and the worse the weather, the better. I'm nearly always looking for areas I'm not familiar with that have hard IFR down to minimums. I want it as realistic as when I do it in real life, ideally. Apparently I'm not alone in the way I sim, but of course there's lots of kinds of simmers and ways to sim! I built AS originally (27 years ago now?) for me to practice IFR procedures more realistically, and while of course we've tried to cater to all kinds of simming/simmers, there is certainly a core focus on realism and challenge in AS DNA.

 

Anyway, regarding turbulence, are you referring to ASFS or MSFS in general? I'm assuming MSFS. We have heard lots of complaints about MSFS turbulence which is why we invested a lot of time on ASFS turbulence as well as the available options to get any kind of experience you're looking for (for example you could turn it way down). Anyhow, MSFS turbulence (especially FS2020) has been explained with terms such as as robotic, constant, static, unrealistic, etc. We recommend using the lowest internal turb setting in the sim (LOW) so ASFS turbulence mostly entirely overrides the effect. Without AS, or some other turbulence effect add-on, you'll get the undesirable MSFS turb effect only.

44 minutes ago, Damian Clark said:

For me, when I sim, I'm not looking at scenery in general. I appreciate challenge, realistic weather, obstructions to visibility, etc. Most of what I do when I sim is practice challenging IFR procedures and approaches, and the worse the weather, the better. I'm nearly always looking for areas I'm not familiar with that have hard IFR down to minimums. I want it as realistic as when I do it in real life, ideally. Apparently I'm not alone in the way I sim, but of course there's lots of kinds of simmers and ways to sim! I built AS originally (27 years ago now?) for me to practice IFR procedures more realistically, and while of course we've tried to cater to all kinds of simming/simmers, there is certainly a core focus on realism and challenge in AS DNA.

 

Anyway, regarding turbulence, are you referring to ASFS or MSFS in general? I'm assuming MSFS. We have heard lots of complaints about MSFS turbulence which is why we invested a lot of time on ASFS turbulence as well as the available options to get any kind of experience you're looking for (for example you could turn it way down). Anyhow, MSFS turbulence (especially FS2020) has been explained with terms such as as robotic, constant, static, unrealistic, etc. We recommend using the lowest internal turb setting in the sim (LOW) so ASFS turbulence mostly entirely overrides the effect. Without AS, or some other turbulence effect add-on, you'll get the undesirable MSFS turb effect only.

Hey Damian, while we have you here thank you for always being available to the community over all these years but any progress on the 149+MPH bug with injected weather?  I know when I see 149 I need to switch from active to passive to get the full wind speed, any progress on that in active mode?  I know you've come up with a lot of workarounds in the past!

What Damian says above, and I would like to add that the problem with turbulence in msfs is probably also related to how aerodynamic elasticity effects are modelled.

But ASOBO is continuing to fine tune the FM. Presently I find it better than it was in fs2020, both ground physics and "flight mode".

They also mentioned something about vertical movements/ thermal effects with this SU2 Beta.

I still have to try ASFS with this beta.