1 hour ago, cchiozza said:

It was that wide for the screenshot but I like the FOV wider than normal for the sense of acceleration. Zoom in to me feels like you are moving at 20knots

Probably because you are used to being zoomed out.  This page is good for accurate FOV

For those wondering why the FOV (Field Of View) should be accurate - distances, size of objects and sense of speed are all affected.  FOV too wide will mean distances are too far, speed is far faster than reality and objects will appear too small.   FOV too zoomed in will mean speed appearing too slow, distances too short and size of objects too big.

A correct FOV will mirror exactly what you would see in the real aircraft.  Because you are viewing the world through a rectangle (your monitor), something like TrackIR becomes very useful to look around.

1 hour ago, cchiozza said:

I dont use the limiter just he cfg edit for frames to 30 and yes it works on NV.

I'm asking because I enabled the limiter in .cfg but FG did not function with my 4090 when NV DLSS FG is enabled in-sim.  I am not in the beta, but the edit option exists in SU1 which is where I'm at.  I guess the capability is part of SU2 so when that goes final can retry because I'm curious as to how it impacts FG artifacts.

1 hour ago, cchiozza said:

It was that wide for the screenshot but I like the FOV wider than normal for the sense of acceleration. Zoom in to me feels like you are moving at 20knots

You're not alone--the DEFAULT zoom value is 50%.  I have preferred zoomed out for the enhanced acceleration as well as the increase in visual sharpness that occurs as one zooms out on textures and terrain that is not super high res.   I'm hoping MS/A increases the size of moon and sun which have become ridiculously small at that zoom level in 2024, unlike 2020 which was if anything slightly too large.   One of the tacit values in the virtual world over the real world is one can change reality to one's liking.

2 hours ago, Noel said:

I'm asking because I enabled the limiter in .cfg but FG did not function with my 4090 when NV DLSS FG is enabled in-sim.  I am not in the beta, but the edit option exists in SU1 which is where I'm at.  I guess the capability is part of SU2 so when that goes final can retry because I'm curious as to how it impacts FG artifacts.

I am on SU1 and enabled internal limiter in UserCfg.opt

My settings:

FrameLimiter 48 -> FG On -> Vsync in NVCP On -> Output 96 FPS in MSFS 2024 SU1

I have a 4090

Edit: Added 4090

 

 

Edited April 19, 20251 yr by deepstar

2 hours ago, Noel said:

the DEFAULT zoom value is 50%

For what hardware is that the default though?  I would assume many people have no idea about FOV and just leave it as is, and in the process get a very skewed idea of what the world looks like from an aircraft.

2 hours ago, Noel said:

One of the tacit values in the virtual world over the real world is one can change reality to one's liking.

I much prefer to change the sim to match reality. 

I get your reasons for zooming out (although with all you do to increase sharpness, I wonder why this should be necessary), but I would point out to those just starting out there is one accurate FOV (field of view) for your monitor and seating distance from it. The link will get the FOV in the right ballpark.

26 minutes ago, MrBitstFlyer said:

I much prefer to change the sim to match reality. 

I get your reasons for zooming out (although with all you do to increase sharpness, I wonder why this should be necessary), but I would point out to those just starting out there is one accurate FOV (field of view) for your monitor and seating distance from it. The link will get the FOV in the right ballpark.

Well, I for one, appreciate the information that you posted. My zoom settings were close without knowing how to set it up properly for the right FOV. I have a Samsung 49" super ultra wide display, so your information and links really helped me dial my FOV and zoom settings in since my display is not your average 16:9 aspect ratio. So, thank you from me 😊

3 hours ago, Noel said:

I'm asking because I enabled the limiter in .cfg but FG did not function with my 4090 when NV DLSS FG is enabled in-sim.  I am not in the beta, but the edit option exists in SU1 which is where I'm at.  I guess the capability is part of SU2 so when that goes final can retry because I'm curious as to how it impacts FG artifacts.

Oh I see, I am on a 3080

42 minutes ago, sniper31 said:

I have a Samsung 49" super ultra wide display

Wow, the FOV on that display must be spectacular!

9 minutes ago, MrBitstFlyer said:

Wow, the FOV on that display must be spectacular!

It is pretty nice...it's like having double or triple monitors, but without all the bezels and having to color match all three screens etc. It has a nice curve to it as well. Great display. 

34 minutes ago, MrBitstFlyer said:

Wow, the FOV on that display must be spectacular!

Yeah, I user a 49 ultrawide as well and like everything else there are tradeoffs which with an ultrawide are the edges of the screen where you get a horrible stretching. 

FOV at 5K is incredible but the stretching at the edges is annoying... 

To give you an idea, in the race sim with the same monitor (I have two, one for each sim)  I can see the exact same thing and I mean exact as the view out of the real car windscreen.  Down to having to shift my eyes a bit to see the wing mirror on the other side. 

This is my default view out of the front in the 777, zoom in and look at how much you can see without having to pan at all... I can see all 5 Glass displays and some peripheral out the left side without being zoomed all the way out for an unrealistic FOV  It's only scaled down to fit a 5k picture on the screen.  Zoomed in is how I actually see it in 5K on my screen with all of that visible at once.

 

Edited April 19, 20251 yr by psolk

39 minutes ago, psolk said:

Yeah, I user a 49 ultrawide as well and like everything else there are tradeoffs which with an ultrawide are the edges of the screen where you get a horrible stretching. 

I think I could live with that - looks great!

Even my Samsung 32" Curved gaming screen @75hz looks good and very cheap.  My 3060ti can usually get to 75hz.

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26 minutes ago, MrBitstFlyer said:

I think I could live with that - looks great!

TY sir, it really does add to the immersion and they have also been dropping in price lately but most are still either 3840x2160 or 5120x1440 which is what I use, the newer models are 5120x2160 which doesn't sound like a lot but it's another 1/3 of the visible display to the top and bottom...   I know you know this but a 32 inch at 3840*2160 and a 64 inch at 3840*2160 at the same FOV is just making the picture "bigger" whereas a 49 at 5120x1440 is fitting more on screen and making it sharper.  For me I would take the 5K 49 inch over a larger format display.

 

 

Edited April 19, 20251 yr by psolk

3 hours ago, MrBitstFlyer said:

For what hardware is that the default though? 

I assume that is the default setting MSFS one perhaps regardless of what screen is being used.   I'm pretty sure P3D and maybe FSX before it were the same but not sure, I just know I always prefer the zoomed out wide, more expansive view despite the fish-eye effect and again I like the sense of speed that accompanies it.  It's very simple to calibrate for a more natural FOV I've certainly done it, I just don't prefer it. 

From ChatGPT's look,

In Microsoft Flight Simulator 2024 (MSFS 2024), optimal zoom levels for cockpit, external, and showcase camera views can vary based on personal preference, monitor size, and the specific aircraft. While there isn't a universally recommended zoom setting, here are some general guidelines:

Cockpit View:

• Default Setting: The default zoom level is typically set to 50. This setting offers a broad view of the cockpit but may introduce a slight fish-eye effect.

It goes on to mention adjusting for a more nature FOV, but again, this seems to be the default starting point.

Edited April 19, 20251 yr by Noel

3 hours ago, MrBitstFlyer said:

I get your reasons for zooming out (although with all you do to increase sharpness, I wonder why this should be necessary)

The primary reason is the wider FOV.  Sharpness and sense of speed are tied for 2nd but are both meaningful.  You wonder because it seems you have a hard time accepting the fact that people see and prioritize what they value differently.  This is why I don't wonder why you 'suffer' with a narrower FOV 😉