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Upcoming Nextgen scenery...

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3 hours ago, Brian Mackie said:

jcomm is clearly a sim forum enthusiast.

Yeah he keeps the enthusiasm alive and as long as he feels good about things, then I know things are going in the right direction and that always a good thing.

 

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    Hey folks, I read that article and with respect to the author... there is a lot of waffle and speculation there. I can see some elements where there was an attempt to come to conclusion based on some

  • I remember reading an article about the so-called "The Dead Internet Theory" which states that most of the time we're just interacting with bots, algorithms, watching AI generated videos or articles.

  • looks like someone typed "what to expect from xp12 next gen scenery" into chatgpt then pasted the result into a webpage. 😇

AI is not a good thing. Dont know why people think it is...

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3 minutes ago, mjrhealth said:

AI is not a good thing. Dont know why people think it is...

AI is like social media.  

It can be good when used the way it's meant to be used.  

If I wasn't able to interact with my friends from high school, and members of my family who are overseas, I would get rid of all my social media accounts faster than anyone could blink.  

I have an AI app on my mac, and I use it regularly.  I used it recently to give me an itinerary for my trip to the US for the expo.  But it does scare the word not allowed out of me, when considering what it may be capable of.

I'm an AI developer with 25 years experience.  AMA.

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4 hours ago, Brian Mackie said:

My suggestion is that jcomm spends more time flying the simulator

Very true, and.. even more than that, taking some time to go flying for real instead of staying at home in front of a PC screen 😕.. sometimes I'm too lazy to drive 90+ km to LPMN and try my luck with not so good soaring weather and actually find myself opting for a sim session🥴

Well, I confess I didn't even read much of the article linked on the OP before posting it... I'm on holidays, away from real and simulated aviation other than the flight to and from here 😁

Anyway, sorry guys for that useless link 😕 and have a great friday and upcoming weekend, with regarding sim sessions or whatever may please you !

Btw: unfortunately I will not be able to arrive in Portugal in time to go to Castelo Branco airfield to see, among other, the surely great exhibition of glider aerobatics by Luca Bertossio 🥴

https://m.facebook.com/beiras.airshow/

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1 hour ago, GoranM said:

when considering what it may be capable of.

Good for plane Ai on games making AI villagers in mine craft run around, Ai planes in other games even Ai trains. But what MS is using it for is scary. Pity but we need basic AI in game.

Ai is good. Not scary. It's the people behind it that are the scary. Thankfully jcomm is not one of those. 

That article is one bit of misleading: it won't make local storage of scenery obsolete, not legally anyway. Maybe someone will set up their own illegal ortho streaming server, but under normal circumstances we won't be forced to daily-download scenery from LR servers. Ortho4xp (or whatever might need to replace it) will merely adapt to the new file formats. 

Friendly reminder: WHITELIST AVSIM IN YOUR AD-BLOCKER. Especially if you're on a modern CPU that can run a flight simulator well. These web servers aren't free...

14 hours ago, GoranM said:

AI is like social media.

You mean it was good until everybody and their granny started using it?

 

13 hours ago, mSparks said:

I'm an AI developer with 25 years experience.  AMA.

How far, in weeks, are we from Judgement Day? Might need some time to move close to something that has molten metal.

 

11 minutes ago, blingthinger said:

Ai is good. Not scary. It's the people behind it that are the scary.

This is something that an AI would say.

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2 hours ago, Bjoern said:

How far, in weeks, are we from Judgement Day? Might need some time to move close to something that has molten metal.

In a way it already happened. But in a more Dr Strangelove meets Westworld Season 3 way than Terminator franchise.

The thing to bear in mind is the technology you are seeing publicly now was state of the art/bleeding edge 10 or 15 years ago, and what you can now run on your macbook needed a multi million super computer back then. The cutting edge today is 10 or 15 years further on.

I expect future generations will look back on this era as the 2007 crises being AI taking over a big chunk of the financial markets, and the current geopolitical issues getting attributed to AI taking over a big chunk of global governance. Which I'm mostly fine with, because politicians are overwhelmingly terrible,

but also,

dues ex

AI is and always will be a tool, a very powerful tool, because Scientia potentia est.

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By the way, I checked an AI-detector that came to the conclusion that this text was generated with a probability of 3% by AI and with 97% by human. What exactly makes you think that it is AI?

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7 hours ago, mSparks said:

The thing to bear in mind is the technology you are seeing publicly now was state of the art/bleeding edge 10 or 15 years ago, and what you can now run on your macbook needed a multi million super computer back then. The cutting edge today is 10 or 15 years further on.

I'm tired  of people telling me that AI will be doing my job in a few years (I'm a programmer). Good luck to the AI dealing with scrum meetings, dealing with customers (gathering requirements, consulting), pointless meetings with management who need to justify their position, etc. The programming part is maybe 10% of the actual job these days :dry:. AI is a great tool to help and can speed up repetitive tasks, but it still needs a human behind it who understands what they're doing. 

10 hours ago, blingthinger said:

Maybe someone will set up their own illegal ortho streaming server, but under normal circumstances we won't be forced to daily-download scenery from LR servers

They've already done that with that tool that charges people to download from Google, Apple etc, and people are paying a subscription to use it. At least if I ever do lose my job to AI, there is always somebody gullible out there who will pay for anything :wink:

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Hey folks, I read that article and with respect to the author... there is a lot of waffle and speculation there. I can see some elements where there was an attempt to come to conclusion based on some things we said, but I don't think that article is a healthy representation of our plans.

 

We're not ready to talk in-depth about next-gen scenery. It is a massive undertaking that goes beyond than just "put new texture and more grass here" 😄 

 

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1 hour ago, tonywob said:

I'm tired  of people telling me that AI will be doing my job in a few years (I'm a programmer). Good luck to the AI dealing with scrum meetings, dealing with customers (gathering requirements, consulting), pointless meetings with management who need to justify their position, etc. The programming part is maybe 10% of the actual job these days :dry:. AI is a great tool to help and can speed up repetitive tasks, but it still needs a human behind it who understands what they're doing. 

Even the most cutting edge current AI is a long way from taking your job, but programmers with a strong skill set in using it might.

It's a tool, one that is expensive to maintain and run, the impact on everything is more like that of the widespread production of JCBs on construction. There are consequences, the way we work changes and the production cost of large complex projects falls significantly. It also creates new problems.

W.Dijkstra covered the core issues quite nicely

https://www.cs.utexas.edu/~EWD/transcriptions/EWD06xx/EWD667.html

Asimov is still the king of fantasising what could be. 

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6 hours ago, Franz007 said:

By the way, I checked an AI-detector that came to the conclusion that this text was generated with a probability of 3% by AI and with 97% by human. What exactly makes you think that it is AI?

I bet that decetor is an AI and they're in cahoots.

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7 hours ago, Franz007 said:

By the way, I checked an AI-detector that came to the conclusion that this text was generated with a probability of 3% by AI and with 97% by human. What exactly makes you think that it is AI?

"Certainly! Here’s a blog-ready section with a clear title and explanatory paragraph that addresses third-party scenery compatibility concerns:"

As spotted by Murmur

For me it was the lack of referencing and loose association with

https://developer.x-plane.com/2024/03/we-are-all-raster-farians-now/

While not actually linking to it.

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