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MSFS 2024 performance

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6 minutes ago, St Mawgan said:

Sorry for your loss. 

Such a childish response - I haven't lost anything.  MSFS2024 is on my system and will get used when the sound popping is no longer an issue. After the initial shock of stock XP12 graphics, I have found it to be an amazing sim with some addons installed, plus streaming satellite imagery. In many respects it is an advance over MSFS.

Of course, MSFS does many things very well too, so it will always be on my system.  Just the sound stuttering and crackling stopping me from using it. No way am I going to invest time with windows installations or reverting to earlier builds when EVERY other sim and game runs without the sound issues.

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    Logically I'd go with @St Mawgan.  If AMD IS the cause, then those with non AMD systems wouldn't experience the issue.  I do not know enough about the issue to sway what the cause is, but it stan

  • That should be more than enough to run MSFS 2024 at high to ultra settings 👍

  • Outside my budget when I was young, TRS-80 Color computer 32KB with upgraded “bubble RAM” for 64KB. My first Intel based PC I could afford was Packard Bell 386SX … for work I had a Compaq 286 wit

Thanks for that then. We know you like XP now but do you have anything pertinent to the thread? 

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32 minutes ago, Christopher Low said:

I was thinking of 32GB DDR5-6000 RAM in 2x16GB sticks.

That matches my config.. 🙂

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2 minutes ago, St Mawgan said:

Thanks for that then. We know you like XP now but do you have anything pertinent to the thread? 

Your initial reply to me was pertinent?

I also stated I like MSFS2024, what's your problem that I had to move to XP12 because of a sound issue in MSFS 2024 reported by others too?

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That's a no then. 

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Just now, St Mawgan said:

That's a no then. 

I read in this thread about a sound problem in MSFS 2024 that I also suffer with.  It is bad enough that I have started using XP12, where I do not suffer the sound issues - I do not get the sound stuttering in any other sim or game with my system. The problem is bad enough that I currently cannot stand to run 2024.

The only non pertinent replies have come from you.

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6 hours ago, MaximumN2 said:

So for me personally, and for many others, the problem seems to be AMD.

AMD didn’t have sound issues … FYI the AMD CPU itself can’t generate sound, that comes from the motherboard and audio.  But this “was” a problem for a while until resolved with BIOS/EFI updates and driver updates.

Performance to price ratio of the 9800X3D is currently the best option for a new build.

I wouldn’t recommend any Intel 13 or 14 series due to the oxidation issues in 13th gen and excessive voltage issues in 13 and 14th gen.  The voltage issue was “resolved” by a reduction voltage and reduced frequency resulting in lower performance.

For RAM, 32GB min

For GPU, AMD7900XTX 24GB or AMD9070XT 16GB or nVidia 3090 24GB.  I’d recommend the AMD 9070XT 16GB if you plan to stay at 1920 x 1080 (should not run into VRAM exhausted issues).

Rob.

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5 minutes ago, MrBitstFlyer said:

I read in this thread about a sound problem in MSFS 2024 that I also suffer with.  It is bad enough that I have started using XP12, where I do not suffer the sound issues - I do not get the sound stuttering in any other sim or game with my system. The problem is bad enough that I currently cannot stand to run 2024.

The only non pertinent replies have come from you.

So what system would you recommend for MSFS2024? 

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The sound crackles and stuttering were really bad for me when I had a 9800x3d and a 4080 super. Departing Klax was a nightmare. Sometimes the audio would crackle so bad it would ctd. Never on the ground while taxiing, only after takeoff. In early May I swapped my 4080 super for a 7900xtx. Have not had any sound popping since then. I wonder if the 9800x3d prefers amd gpu’s. 

7 minutes ago, SetSpeed said:

The sound crackles and stuttering were really bad for me when I had a 9800x3d and a 4080 super. Departing Klax was a nightmare. Sometimes the audio would crackle so bad it would ctd. Never on the ground while taxiing, only after takeoff. In early May I swapped my 4080 super for a 7900xtx. Have not had any sound popping since then. I wonder if the 9800x3d prefers amd gpu’s. 

Possibly, but I get zero sound issues with any of my other Sims or games.  I imagine this will be one of those issues MS/Osobo never address.

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1 minute ago, MrBitstFlyer said:

Possibly, but I get zero sound issues with any of my other Sims or games.  I imagine this will be one of those issues MS/Osobo never address.

True, as I never had these issues in 2020. Nor did my son have these issues in his games. For some reason the issue completely resolved itself with the 7900xtx in 2024. Now, the only time I use 2020 is when I want to fly pmdg 737.  For all else, it’s 2024.

10 hours ago, Christopher Low said:

i7 14700KF/16GB RTX 5060Ti combo. Would this be sufficient to run MSFS 2024 at decent detail levels?

I think so. I'm having a good time with my current setup, which has a lesser CPU than your proposal (specs in signature). If you wish, you could also consider a 9800X3D instead of your i7. I don't need 64 GB RAM yet, but it depends on the addons in use. Right now I'm not in a hurry.

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Main rig: self built, AMD Ryzen 7 5700X3D (with SMT off and CO -50 mV), 2x16 GB DDR4-3200 RAM, Nvidia RTX 5060Ti 16GB, 256 GB M.2 SSD (OS+apps) + 2x1 TB SATA III SSD (sims) + 1 TB 7200 rpm HDD (storage), ID-Cooling SE-224-XTS air cooler, Viewsonic VX2458-MHD 1920x1080@120-144 Hz (G-sync compatible), Windows 11. Running P3D v5.4 (with v4.5 scenery objects as an additional library, just in case), FSX-SE, MSFS2020, MSFS2024 and even FS9! Lossless Scaling for all my sims. What a godsend...

Mobile rig: ASUS Zenbook UM425QA (AMD Ryzen 7 5800H APU @3.2 GHz and boost disabled, 1 TB M.2 SSD, 16 GB RAM, Windows 11 Pro). Running FS9 there .

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The 7800X3D is about a hundred pounds cheaper than the 9800X3D. How would that compare with the i7 14700KF?

Christopher Low

AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D CPU / 64GB DDR5-6000 RAM / 12GB Nvidia RTX 4070 Super GPU / Gigabyte X870E Aorus Elite Wifi 7 / 1+2TB Samsung Evo Plus M2 Nvme

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If you want to shave money off on the CPU side and put that shaved money into a better GPU, that would be a good decision.  With any of the 3 CPUs you listed, the bottleneck will still be the GPU when it comes to MSFS 2024.

Put as much money as you want into the GPU side.  nVidia DLSS is better than AMD FSR … I personally don’t like any technology than reduces image quality in exchange for higher FPS (especially in a flight simulator) so I have no interest in what DLSS or FSR offer.  However, with that said DLSS 4 will get you better image quality (relative to FSR) and higher FPS than FSR.

In summary, get the cheapest of those 3 CPUs you listed and spend more on the GPU.

Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence. - Carl Sagan

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The problem with spending more on a GPU is that the prices rise exponentially with each step up in power.

Christopher Low

AMD Ryzen 7 9800X3D CPU / 64GB DDR5-6000 RAM / 12GB Nvidia RTX 4070 Super GPU / Gigabyte X870E Aorus Elite Wifi 7 / 1+2TB Samsung Evo Plus M2 Nvme

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