28 minutes ago, SayAgain said:

In MSFS 2024 under graphics section, just move the TAA slider over to 200 (Asobo have a hover text to the right stating anything over 100 switches to SSAA).  I run native 3440 x 1440 so TAA = 200 is like running 6880 x 2880.  The visual difference IMHO is night and day and so is the performance hit unfortunately.

But be warned, today I managed to hit 29GB VRAM usage for a flight from EGLL to LFPO in PMDG 777 with a host of add-ons (Orbx, GSX, Navigraph, Simbrief, etc.)

This is indeed pushing your card hard.. 😉

30gb vram???😳😳🥴🥴🥴

I may as well toss my pc out the window. 😆 

 

Mike

7 hours ago, SayAgain said:

Absolutely agree ... I was mistaken, I managed to top 30GB VRAM usage but at the options screen not really in flight (Green MEM is GPU VRAM):

And 29GB:

This is the TAA = 200 setting:

I'll post EGLL to LFPO video later with all the data logs and RTSS overlay.  I'm still very rusty with PMDG 777 (couldn't get the SimBrief flight plan to load into FMC, see it in FMC and select it but just doesn't seem to load).

Rob.

Thanks for this.  Just goes to show that despite all the cr@p thrown at them, Asobo have delicately and artfully crafted a sim architecture that runs not only on a console, but can also fully leverage the power of today's top PCs.  That's some feat guys!  As ever for us, basic sim law still holds - that you cannot ever have too much raw technical power in your rig 😁

8 hours ago, SayAgain said:

Absolutely agree ... I was mistaken, I managed to top 30GB VRAM usage but at the options screen not really in flight (Green MEM is GPU VRAM):

And 29GB:

This is the TAA = 200 setting:

I'll post EGLL to LFPO video later with all the data logs and RTSS overlay.  I'm still very rusty with PMDG 777 (couldn't get the SimBrief flight plan to load into FMC, see it in FMC and select it but just doesn't seem to load).

Rob.

Welcome back Rob!! 

I am really glad so to see you back in MSFS trying to sort these performance issues like the old days in P3D.

2 hours ago, ttbq1 said:

Welcome back Rob!! 

I am really glad so to see you back in MSFS trying to sort these performance issues like the old days in P3D.

I have to ask...the Rob?

The name indicated at the top right of the screenshots would suggest that this is indeed the case.

11 hours ago, SayAgain said:

 I run native 3440 x 1440 so TAA = 200 is like running 6880 x 2880.  The visual difference IMHO is night and day and so is the performance hit unfortunately.

I run 3440x as well but use the registry hack to activate sharpening in NVCP and have exquisite sharpness w/o the performance hit.  You're referring to the Render Scale slider which I used to set at 140-150 and that will drive up GPU use but easy to keep it under the point at which it becomes GPU limited.  Since finding the reg hack I often leave Render Scale at 100 in the most demanding spots and in lesser so areas up to 120 or 130.  

Sharpening Hack:  HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SYSTEM\CurrentControlSet\Services\nvlddmkm\Parameters\FTS

Go to GR535, change from Hex 1 to 0

Set Sharpening in NVCP.  Default is great here.

 

 

Edited July 20, 2025Jul 20 by Noel

11 hours ago, mikeymike said:

30gb vram???😳😳🥴🥴🥴

I may as well toss my pc out the window. 😆 

 

Mike

Funny thing, when they first started talking about how great 2024 was going to be, they said the performance would be much  better than 2020. What a crock. 

1 minute ago, Bobsk8 said:

Funny thing, when they first started talking about how great 2024 was going to be, they said the performance would be much  better than 2020. What a crock. 

That reply Bob to that post makes no sense whatsoever.  The EXACT SAME THING happens in 2020 when you set Render Scale to 200, duh.

Performance, relative to DETAIL, is absolutely better in 2024.

13 minutes ago, Noel said:

That reply Bob to that post makes no sense whatsoever.  The EXACT SAME THING happens in 2020 when you set Render Scale to 200, duh.

Performance, relative to DETAIL, is absolutely better in 2024.

So explain why they recommend 64GB of memory for 2024  when 16 GB runs 2020 perfectly? 

49 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said:

Funny thing, when they first started talking about how great 2024 was going to be, they said the performance would be much  better than 2020. What a crock. 

We've always needed tomorrow's hardware to run todays's sim well.  You cannot expect older hardware to deliver much better performance.  It's like magiking something out of nothing.  Unless, you are a flat earth believer that the sim architecture is so massively unoptimised that you can make it run and look better on yesteryear's hardware without much difficulty.  In which case, go and offer your services to Asobo and Microsoft, they have deep pockets and you'll coin it in! 🤣🤣🤣

29 minutes ago, Bobsk8 said:

So explain why they recommend 64GB of memory for 2024  when 16 GB runs 2020 perfectly? 

What you're missing on this topic Bob is that when you set them up identically (not that that is obvious how do do), not taking advantage of the 4000x polygon count 2024 is capable of, 2024 performs better.  I installed 64Gb of ram way before I ever got near installing 2024 because it was obvious looking at paging behavior there was some advantage in having 64Gb of ram for 2020.   And ram, is cheap.  So the reason should be very obvious:  users like taking advantage of that 4000x polygon count even when they don't have the hardware to do that.   I run 2024 all Ultra, TLOD 100-200 on the ground situation dependent, on up to 400 on high.  I've seen as high as 30Gb of ram in use, but very very uncommonly.

Gotta compare apples to apples...👍

4 minutes ago, Noel said:

I've seen as high as 30Gb of ram in use, but very very uncommonly

Highest I've seen personally was 38Gb, and I've _never_ seen VRAM use as high as Rob's above.. [challenge accepted!]

All of this being said in the end 2024 and 2020 are super close cousins.  There is simply no need to move on to 2024 right now, unless....

• You wish to enjoy the superior atmospherics and lighting.  Not that 2020's was bad, but 2024 IMO is much closer to what I see in our RW.
• You wish to and have the hardware to exploit that 4000x increase in polygon resolution.  I see this everywhere--on the ground, in the Front Range mountains nearby my home airport near Denver.
• You wish to take advantage of the massively faster startup for each session, as well as super fast install or reinstall, over 2020.
• You wish to play with Career mode etc.
• You wish to support the folks who gave you 2020.  I seriously doubt MS/A wishes for users to stick w/ 2020.  I definitely wish to support the team and so can cope w/ 2024's WIP state.  Right now the only thing not working well is I-Fly's 737 MAX 8 in Self Loading Cargo which I use in nearly all flights:  SLC doesn't sense parking brake status and seatbelt.  So I use the MAX, but have to do some workaround to get SLC to advance to Pushback when Pushback depends on parking brake status being known.