I’m a recent XP12 convert and now it’s time to look for a tube. I am elated to find these Flight Factor 757 and 767 models, planes I’ve wanted since the LVLD 767 back in FSX days. They are pricy for a retired codger but I am willing to pay if they are:

1.polished finished bug free products and not another pay to beta mess.

2. study level true to life systems. I hate to measure against another developer and don’t want to start a tribal war but PMDG has long been the gold standard for Boeing jets in the other platforms so is the FF 757 or 767 near their standards in quality of fidelity to the real aircraft and cockpit graphics?

3. and how about technical support if needed?

I am grateful to hear from anyone with experience with these aircraft and Flight Factor in general since as stated above, they are quite an expense to just close my eyes and jump.

Thanks in advance.

1 hour ago, Patco Lch said:

I’m a recent XP12 convert and now it’s time to look for a tube. I am elated to find these Flight Factor 757 and 767 models, planes I’ve wanted since the LVLD 767 back in FSX days. They are pricy for a retired codger but I am willing to pay if they are:

1.polished finished bug free products and not another pay to beta mess.

2. study level true to life systems. I hate to measure against another developer and don’t want to start a tribal war but PMDG has long been the gold standard for Boeing jets in the other platforms so is the FF 757 or 767 near their standards in quality of fidelity to the real aircraft and cockpit graphics?

3. and how about technical support if needed?

I am grateful to hear from anyone with experience with these aircraft and Flight Factor in general since as stated above, they are quite an expense to just close my eyes and jump.

Thanks in advance.

Take a look at the Flight Factor 777v2:
 

 

I actually purchased the FF 777 and confirm that it flies fantastic.
 

 

26 minutes ago, alanw2005 said:

I actually purchased the FF 777 and confirm that it flies fantastic.
 

 

When are going to implement FMC winds?! That's a major show stopper for me...not able to calculate an accurate TOD in a strong head or tailwind 🙄

Edited October 9, 2025Oct 9 by Falconjet112

4 hours ago, Falconjet112 said:

When are going to implement FMC winds?! That's a major show stopper for me...not able to calculate an accurate TOD in a strong head or tailwind 🙄

They just did. It’s now in their beta branch and available to test.

7 hours ago, Gilandred said:

They just did. It’s now in their beta branch and available to test.

That's great news....thanks!

On 10/9/2025 at 4:53 PM, Patco Lch said:

I’m a recent XP12 convert and now it’s time to look for a tube. I am elated to find these Flight Factor 757 and 767 models, planes I’ve wanted since the LVLD 767 back in FSX days. They are pricy for a retired codger but I am willing to pay if they are:

1.polished finished bug free products and not another pay to beta mess.

2. study level true to life systems. I hate to measure against another developer and don’t want to start a tribal war but PMDG has long been the gold standard for Boeing jets in the other platforms so is the FF 757 or 767 near their standards in quality of fidelity to the real aircraft and cockpit graphics?

3. and how about technical support if needed?

I am grateful to hear from anyone with experience with these aircraft and Flight Factor in general since as stated above, they are quite an expense to just close my eyes and jump.

Thanks in advance.

The 757 and 767 are « solid » products. But I don’t think they reach PMDG-quality. I would put them on a level below PMDG. However, as mentionned above, the FF777 is pretty fantastic and surpasses the PMDG 777 in my opinion.

4 minutes ago, Franz007 said:

The 757 and 767 are « solid » products. But I don’t think they reach PMDG-quality. I would put them on a level below PMDG. However, as mentionned above, the FF777 is pretty fantastic and surpasses the PMDG 777 in my opinion.

Thank you for that. I have all the PMDG T7 models in P3D and though they are beautiful models of a tremendous aircraft I just haven’t used them much over the years. I guess the long haul mission of that aircraft doesn’t appeal to me much since a three hour sim session is about all my old seat can stand😂 

I really enjoyed the LVLD 767 back in the day which has a wide variety of flight lengths and there seem to be limited versions of those in today’s sim world. And a 757 would definitely be great.

LevelD 767 😍Lot's of good memmories....

I own the 757 Pro for xp12, but I seldom use it tbh, but it's a nice model, although, as Franz put's it above, not ot the level of PMDG, maybe more in the Captain Sim line (for FSX / P3D), which wasn't bad AFAIK...

I’ve had the FF 757 for years. Great addon to the point where IMHO you’d need to be Type Rated to pock it apart

I can’t opine vs PMDG, but given the devs backgrounds, I’ll agree that PMDG probably has higher systems fidelity. 

The 757 is an old addon, but it receives regular updates, both graphical and systems (and a pretty hefty one last month or two). AFAIK, the radar may cause some instability, but as that’s not even available in MSFS, we’ll…

The FF 777 is their newest and flagship addon. The Lead Dev even went as far as to attain an IRL Type Rating, which is impressive considering he’s not a comm pilot! Reviews have been great, and updates have been frequent  

so it might be a choice of flying the 777 on short haul to get the best FF addon yet, or the 757 if you prefer real world routes etc. 

for me, the 757 is good enough that I’m not really tempted to get the 777. 

I just did a sort of "recurrent train" drill on both 757 and 767 yesterday, and reported 7 bugs just based on I can't follow QRH (I don't have realworld experience in both types except as passenger)

That's on top of 11 more bug reports just for normal flight (some of them have been fixed though)

5 hours ago, C2615 said:

I just did a sort of "recurrent train" drill on both 757 and 767 yesterday, and reported 7 bugs just based on I can't follow QRH (I don't have realworld experience in both types except as passenger)

That's on top of 11 more bug reports just for normal flight (some of them have been fixed though)

Please share !!!!! 

I keep finding bugs but am very lazy writing / documenting it in my simulation activities... But having a list will make me search for them in my next flight and maybe find out why I had found something "strange" in one of my flights before 🙂

21 hours ago, jcomm said:

Please share !!!!! 

I keep finding bugs but am very lazy writing / documenting it in my simulation activities... But having a list will make me search for them in my next flight and maybe find out why I had found something "strange" in one of my flights before 🙂

Here is my drill:

752RR, Round 1:

MTOW (based on Boeing Performance Software calculation) V1 engine fire -- after lift off I got GPWS TOO LOW TERRAIN and after gear up I got TOO LOW GEAR warning until 800'AGL.

Single engine climb out is kinda good, about right to 2.4% climb gradient -- but the rudder trim doesn't work above 2.8 unit, the pointer can goes over 2.8, but aerodynamic only get to 2.8 unit, I still need some rudder input to keep straight.

Entering Hold, and inputting VOR approach after the HOLD, --when I connect the approach's waypiont to the discontinuity after HOLD in LEGS page, it deleted my hold.

EO VOR approach goes fine, went around and the GPWS still got TOO LOW TERRAIN and TOO LOW GEAR warning on G/A.

Enter another hold, --this time still got HOLD deleted when connect to another approach, and right at I enter the hold, I got LNAV disconnect MSG and CTD.

Round 2:

MTOW engine failure at V2, still GPWS freaking out, climb out fine.

Restart engine, --while I'm at 240kts and 8000feet, the X-BLD not show, so I follow QRH do a windmill start by placing start switch to FLT, it somehow opens the START VALVE and I kinda got a XBLD start anyway, and the switch even jump all the way back to AUTO after start.

GEN DRIVE failure,  seems not much drama here.

rapid depressurization, mostly seems good  -- but the cabin rate indicator goes round, so I got some negative reading when CAB ALT is visually climbing, get me some confusing  if the cabin altitude were controllable.

HYD R failure with failed pumps, and leaking HYD L, I got HYD R failure QRH done and established final, then HYD L finally FAIL -- when I go around at touchdown, I somehow can still rise landing gear.

HYD L+R goes though QRH fine, although I just follow the chedcklist and manually lower the gear, not sure if it can be lower automatically again.

After landing I got no reverser --  but when I pull the reverser (with TCA airbus axis reverser), I got full forward power, and with limited brake, I when over runway (Nah, just 20 meters anyway), got a WHEEL WELL fire unexpectedly, made a quick evacuate drill.

767PW, Round 3:

Cold condition cockpit prep-- when doing De-Ice on idle thrust, when I turned off both BLEEDs, the ENG ANTI-ICE when off, which it shouldn't.

On climb out, I got an ENGINE BLEED OVHT failure, -- the overhead panel shows OVTH light, but EICAS shows ENG HISTAGE (HISTAGE on 757only, OVTH on 767 only). And again, when BLEEDs are off, the ENG ANTI-ICE get a VALVE caution as if there is no air for it.

Engine failure on cruise, --no ENG OUT page on FMC, and the In-flight start envelope is funky, when I was on FL280 it shows me the envelope on FL230 and below, but When I descend to FL230 it shows nothing.

Try a X-BLD in-flight start anyway,  --when place the engine start switch to GND, nothing, the start valve not open, no N2, so I have to put it to FLT and get a boosted air start anyway.

CARGO fire -- the EICAS shows AFT CRG FIRE, but no red light on the button until ARMED, After discharge extinguisher, the EICAS warning stopped, but the red FIRE light on button still light unless I disarm it (I checked FWD one, when ARMED, no red light).

Set a Leading edge flaps fail, once it fail I got LES SLAT ASYM light immediately, rather than when moving the Flaps, I mean fine, it could be. follow the checklist and no drama there.

Went around, reset the leading edge, set an engine fire no issue there, VOR approach and landed with single engine.

I have both 757 and 767 in top of the line editions (every variant etc)... I enjoy them a lot. I am not quite fond of their implementation of the tablet - there is no tablet, it's a popup window, but other than that, I enjoy them. I did have a few issues over the last couple of years, including crashes of the sim while flying them, but lately all seems well with the most recent updates. PMDG isn't bug-free either, especially with Asobo's constant sim updates breaking them on a regular basis, WASM crashes, etc... So in terms of that, I feel like they aren't too far off. I do seem to remember the 75 being a bit pitchy while handflying, but I believe that's been rectified. I do recommend them. 

After spending $119 on the global 757 I’ve yet to complete a flight due to crash to desk top. After research I find the common solution is to remove the TGDS plug in from the aircraft’s folder. According to the testimony of others this solves the issue but no weather radar or terrain. I’ll find out today. On an addon this expensive I find this frustrating. 
Everything else about the FF757 from systems to graphics is captivating or I would put it away into my fool and his money soon parted file. It still doesn’t import winds aloft. I hope Flight Factor addresses these issues. I was planning on grabbing the 767 next month or two but will not unless these issues are resolved in the 757.