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DO NOT BUY Carenado Vintage C172 for MSFS 2020

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If they had posted how much does not function in 2020 but all works in 2024 I would NEVER have spent the money. I am quite upset about it as it NEVER should have been offered in MSFS2020 in the marketplace. The DG does not function AT ALL. Mouse is DEAD on the 2 dials. The same goes for the VOR. The Autopilot is non-functional and the breakers do not function. I can understand in 2020 the breakers not working. I watched a video of the airplane someone bought in 2024 and ALL these items worked fine. I have been buying Carenado aircraft since they FIRST started as a company. VERY used to )(#*&^)($&()...... I thought that all ended......WRONG!!!

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  • The title should read "DO NOT BUY Carenado". FIFY The thing is (and I bought about 20 of their products for FSX/P3D) back in the day they used to release a couple of fixes/updates after the initi

  • Sadly carenado has been releasing things with bugs and NOT fixing them.  In previous sims they would release buggy products but generally would patch them (maybe even fixed by a community member)

  • Hear hear. Next thing you know, people will start demanding that the elevator works. What folks need to realize is that this is a SIM.

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45 minutes ago, troybilt said:

The DG does not function AT ALL. Mouse is DEAD on the 2 dials. The same goes for the VOR. The Autopilot is non-functional and the breakers do not function.

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15 minutes ago, troybilt said:

Are you Old enough to remember...is it Paul something. He was quite funny for the time

 

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The title should read "DO NOT BUY Carenado". FIFY

The thing is (and I bought about 20 of their products for FSX/P3D) back in the day they used to release a couple of fixes/updates after the initial mess, and with dedicated people (read Bert Pieke), that made them enjoyable and semi-realistic to fly in the end. Nowadays, there are generally NO updates (certainly not for their LLs and FFs) and much of the config is hidden behind market place encryption and unfixable by the community. So all we have now with them is a puppy farm. Very pretty to look at, but don't expect fully functional, realistic and let alone system depth.

Sadly carenado has been releasing things with bugs and NOT fixing them.  In previous sims they would release buggy products but generally would patch them (maybe even fixed by a community member)

I'm done with them unless they start fixing their very broken products

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As soon as I found out there was going to be a Saab 340 in MSFS2024 I was like oooOooOo.... then I read it was going to be made by Carenado and I was like ohhhhhhh. 

23 minutes ago, rick celik said:

As soon as I found out there was going to be a Saab 340 in MSFS2024 I was like oooOooOo.... then I read it was going to be made by Carenado and I was like ohhhhhhh. 

Yeah, got their PC12 when it was released and was immediately reminded as to why I don't buy from certain developers. I put them on my "Do Not" list several years ago. I didn't learn from this. There's a long list of developers that pump planes out with little regard to fixing them. Quality vs quantity. 

I know a lot of us complain about several developers but Carenado is notorious.

Do yourself a favor and spend the extra money on something that works. 

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1 hour ago, rick celik said:

As soon as I found out there was going to be a Saab 340 in MSFS2024 I was like oooOooOo.... then I read it was going to be made by Carenado and I was like ohhhhhhh. 

Agree, the 340B contributed greatly in my decision to buy MSFS2024, what a mistake. It is my number one hanger Queen, one year on and it's still a lemon.

YBCG

4 hours ago, JustanotherPilot said:

Agree, the 340B contributed greatly in my decision to buy MSFS2024, what a mistake. It is my number one hanger Queen, one year on and it's still a lemon.

This. It was one of the planes I was most excited to try. Turns out the anticipation wasn't quite worth it.

9 hours ago, Fielder said:

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Hear hear.

Next thing you know, people will start demanding that the elevator works. What folks need to realize is that this is a SIM.

I can understand the frustration of the OP that even the Autopilot does not function in MSFS2020, obviously an MSFS2024 product released into MSFS2020 without minimal testing…


Anyway, just an average simmer here, no aspiring pilot…🙂…This past week, I flew the PMDG 777, iniBuilds 340/350, and more significantly…🙂…the new Carenado B3901A…all in MSFS2024. I had good and equal fun in all of them…including the one by Carenado…(in their own ways)…

Cheers…!

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11 hours ago, JustanotherPilot said:

Agree, the 340B contributed greatly in my decision to buy MSFS2024, what a mistake. It is my number one hanger Queen, one year on and it's still a lemon.

Loved the LES Saab in a different sim and took that everywhere. One look at the "default" Saab in 2024 resulted in me deleting it from my content manager. Tried flying it, checklists and all.... 

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I thought the "Carenado 172" was one of their "okay'ish" releases in 2024.  I didn't realise for a minute that so many functions didn't work in 2020.  That's really poor form.  

I still hangared the C172 though because the AP is a mess.  All it needs is 2 lines of code in the [autopilot] section of the systems.cfg.    In other planes, I add it myself if it's missing.   But as stated above, because all of Carenado's releases are now fully encrypted in 2024, there is no possibility of making the fix ourselves, that would take Carenado 2 minutes to do, if they had even the mildest inclination to care about their products or their customers.

That C172 was genuinely the last Carenado product I will buy.   (Yeah, yeah, we've all said that!).  Except I haven't - until now!

Since the release of 2024, in my book, Carenado have now reached a level of incredulity and patheticness that matches Captain Sim.

Never again!

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