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DO NOT BUY Carenado Vintage C172 for MSFS 2020

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Not sure why the sentence..you have word not allowed???  was typed??? I was NOT using A.I.??

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  • The title should read "DO NOT BUY Carenado". FIFY The thing is (and I bought about 20 of their products for FSX/P3D) back in the day they used to release a couple of fixes/updates after the initi

  • Sadly carenado has been releasing things with bugs and NOT fixing them.  In previous sims they would release buggy products but generally would patch them (maybe even fixed by a community member)

  • Hear hear. Next thing you know, people will start demanding that the elevator works. What folks need to realize is that this is a SIM.

3 hours ago, MaGer1965 said:

I'd be concerned if I'd invested money in Carenado as a company 😜😂 

Are you kidding? I suspect they've bought their own Caribbean island on the proceeds of MSFS. 

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Have 2020 on hanger page...Carenado D18 with that incredible addon package at flightsim to making one of my favorites below all the Blacksquare I own. Carenado V35b, fair. Beechcraft Staggerwing, fair. Had ALL this stuff in FSX. Carenado B55?? not sure why when the Blacksquare are off the charts. Carenado C182RG2 OK. Carenado C182Q ok. Carenado CT182T. I guess I got it because for Synthetic vision in FSX it was $30 just for that only to find out it was only for 1 year...FUNKY. CarendoCT210N. ..my opinion...OK only. Carenado M20R just happen to like it. Carenado PA28 181 Archer 2, Not sure why when I own all the JUST FLIGHT PIPERS. Carenado YMF-5 can be fun at times. Carenado C337. I think this was the FIRST incredibly realistic VC ever in flight sim 2004,,,,for LOOKS. Carenado T207 Stationair. Just like it. SOOOO... I still do not completely BAG on Carenado BUT.....If they refunded me $2500 for frustration it would be a good start. I think I had the V35 in Microsoft 2000 or 2002. I still have CD's of MSFS 95, MSFS 98,  MSFS 2020 with the concord...MSFS2002, 2 copies of MSFS2004 MSFS FSX and later found a CD of Acceleration years later. Found out my Uncle volunteered at the thrift shop in Minneapolis that had the ONE copy I found. I never went threw Carenado Dek-Tox..I hear it can be pretty rough. Lots of testimonial recoveries.

2 hours ago, DD_Arthur said:

Are you kidding? I suspect they've bought their own Caribbean island on the proceeds of MSFS. 

Maybe not lol but you're not super far from the truth.  Carenado has absolutely crushed the market in terms of sales for MSFS.  Basically any big devs selling on the Marketplace...IniBuilds, Carenado, PMDG etc.  Guys, even the devs we don't like are selling well like MSFSceneryBuilders and Deimos.  They have thousands of reviews!  That means at LEAST that many are buying.  But how many people review who buy?  I'd guess less than 10% actually review the stuff they buy.

I heard a rumor back in the day that the FSW dev was able to buy a new house due to sales from the C414 just like in the first year or something.

 

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The money is hard to imagine. Not really off topic..a young 22 year nebraska farm girl makes 1/4 million from youtube. Her family has been farming in Nebraska since the Mammoths roamed. Nice girl married a farmer from Minnesota. I grew up in Dassel Minnesota Hwy 12 50 miles west of Minneapolis in the 50's and 60's. It is a Job to create content BUTTTT they do make money. I do not think 20,000 purchasers of Carenado that have had blood pressure treatment is a good testimony. We can't all be liars.

Yeah, wish there was more info on the marketplace for reviews. At least with payware most of us know in advance which developers to steer away from. Casual stuff is fine if that's what you want. FlightFx is a good example of planes not super in-depth but look good, sound good, do the vast majority of the functions of the plane they're representing and are IMO a lot of fun for the price. If there's a bug, they fix it. Good balance between good stuff vs price.

Some developers...well.... the discussion here is making it obvious. We've all purchased a plane and regretted it before. That's why any "C" plane or NextGen plane is not down below in my list. I don't fly them. Ever.

Every other plane I fly several times a month. Just a week ago I was cruising the BR Goose around Monacho. Pretending to ferry tourists from Olbia. That hasn't been updated for a while but it works well. Even went fishing waiting for the next group of passengers. 🙂

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with some of the conversations we have here in these forums, I wouldn't know what reviews are credible and what ones to ignore. 

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On 11/18/2025 at 1:56 PM, troybilt said:

Not sure why the sentence..you have word not allowed???  was typed??? I was NOT using A.I.??

The forum has a list of words that are censored and replaced with that phrase.

 

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Carenados can be buggy but still like the classic c337 and the newer c408 is excellent.

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Carenado can be responsive but you must must must email them directly. They don’t monitor forums and I was advised they also don’t consistently get feedback via the official MSFS forums bug reporting process, so email them. So many here assume if they see an issue and post here (or other forums) then magically the team will know about it. Email them.

They still have their hits and misses though, with the smaller Piper and Cessna series generally being solid, with more issues as you get into larger aircraft. 

For good or bad their aircraft also lend themselves to being more accessible in the real world, so pilots of the real thing who are also simmers will tend to have a more critical eye too. 

If you go into them understanding that their market is the casual user (they explicitly stated this in an interview on a defunct FS news site a decade ago), they are generally great, and have the best visuals on the market regardless. If you want them to be Blacksquare or A2A, you won’t be happy.

Likewise if you are a real world operator of one of their simulated types, you may not be happy either. Some degree of ignorance is sadly to their benefit here. (Example: real world C408 Super Courier pilot had quite a list of issues with Carenado’s rendition, but to most others it’s a nice plane).

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Thanks again for all the WONDERFUL input. You guys are encouraging. I have all the Flight FX aircraft. Never use them YET. Noticed alot of not essential buttons not working. Not an issue. Was not sure of there Market. I did not know if they were BLACKSQUARE caliber or not. Flew the Honda jet once and the SF50 vision jet, which I love maybe a half a dozen times so far. Getting old and have alot of property so much of my time is spent on that. I was flying in 2004 and grounded myself because of medications,,which I no longer take. I do not think my Chemo Pills are on the list. I still have plans to buy an airplane and fly again. Got my Sport License 20yrs ago and spend all my money on 5 grown kids and 14 grand children. Flight simulation is therapeutic and is excellent brain exercise on the brain for REAL flight training. My instructor was suspicious and when my flying was flawless, he thought maybe I was some kind of FAA "plant" or something at first. He made sure he told me he did NOT believe in simulators. SOOOO I WAS going to show him WHY but did not.

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I like the Carenado 172 because of its's looks

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Carenado 172

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Asobo's rather boring 172

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I love the Carenado PC12....never cared to buy anything else!

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14 hours ago, Fielder said:

 

 

I like the Carenado 172 because of its's looks

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Carenado 172

 

 

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Asobo's rather boring 172

 

 

 

 

 

You 'necro' an old post just to say that you think it looks nice?

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Yes! Absolutely, I did. 

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