52 minutes ago, rob0203 said:

I love the 737 just because of the workload the a320 Fenix is also great but just feels more like a IPhone where you only have to push the “on” button.

i understand what you are saying, but from somebody who exclusively flew boeings until 3 months ago, i have to say i have been nothing but impressed since buying the fenix a320. so polished and refined compared to the pmdg 737. i have flown 30 flights in the 737 since release in fs2024, but i have now been drawn back to the fenix like a moth to the lightbulb. 

14 hours ago, Fromage_Flippant said:

i understand what you are saying, but from somebody who exclusively flew boeings until 3 months ago, i have to say i have been nothing but impressed since buying the fenix a320. so polished and refined compared to the pmdg 737. i have flown 30 flights in the 737 since release in fs2024, but i have now been drawn back to the fenix like a moth to the lightbulb. 

Yes, I like the Fenix also a lot but personally I don't like the workload so much. I mean the A320 is almost like a Iphone which you turn on, the 737 has a bit more things to do and take care of in flight. That is why I also like the Maddog a lot.

Edited January 11Jan 11 by rob0203

2 hours ago, rob0203 said:

Yes, I like the Fenix also a lot but personally I don't like the workload so much. I mean the A320 is almost like a Iphone which you turn on, the 737 has a bit more things to do and take care of in flight. That is why I also like the Maddog a lot.

Where might I find this "On" button in the Airbus?😆

Funny how different people perceive things. Workload in an aircraft should be as low as possible, so that you can concentrate on flying. I mean after all these are meant to be flown by two people who share the workload.

And if I compare the two, for example when using FS2Crew think the workload for the Airbus is just right.

I use the Ryanair SOP version for the 737 and find myself constantly wondering why they have the PIC do so much. Why do I have to set the flaps before take-off? What do I have a pilot monitoring for?

 

So everyone sees these things differently.

Edited January 11Jan 11 by Farlis

On a separate thread on Reddit (I think) on the same subject, a real world pilot who flies both said something that made sense to me - when you are flying the plane for real, every day/week/month, you appreciate that the Airbus does a lot for you, and the cockpit is larger (he used the phrase "luxury spa"), no manual trim etc. etc. He prefers the Airbus in his actual job for all sorts of good, practical reasons. 

But this same person prefers the Boeing in the sim precisely because it's supposed to be fun - so there's more to do, more to keep track of, more buttons to press etc. And that's more fun in game/sim/relaxing time!

Makes sense, and also quite simply, as said above, everyone has a different preference for what they like.. and that's how it should be.  

3 hours ago, Ricardo41 said:

Where might I find this "On" button in the Airbus?😆

…🙂…This gives new meaning, Ricardo, to what some of us occasionally used to do in the earlier SIMs… (Ctrl+E and Push the throttles…)…🙂…Who cares about Workflow and Cold & Dark start…

Yes, all is (and should be) fair in the SIM depending on our individual inclinations. In the past SIMs, I would sometimes fly e.g., the 787 and the 727/707 in the same day B2B, to appreciate the differences how much the aviation has progressed…

It makes me laugh when people say this "the airbus is too easy" business.  It's just different.  Let's consider the main areas where there is automation, where you wouldn't get it in the Boeing;   Electrical Bus switching, Hydraulic settings (which are turned on once in the Boeing! 😄), automated fuel tank management.... I guess the big one being FBW's 'autotrim' load management.

It's not really a lot in the scheme of planning an entire flight, with a realistic OFP, weights, balance, performance, routing, weather, etc.

You still need to tell the Airbus where you're going, with what weights and your required performance.

Here's an interesting one for you, an area where the Boeing does something automatically, where the Airbus doesn't!  :-

VNAV / Managed descent

If you're going to descend with the VNAV profile, and have already set a lower altitude in the MCP..... the Boeing will descend automatically on reaching the TOD..... The Airbus requires you to press the altitude knob (Managed), to initiate DES on the FMA and start you heading down!

Huh, those Boeing's are far too easy to fly! 😄

Edited January 11Jan 11 by JYW

I have noticed something after the 4.00.007 update of the PMDG 737-800 in MSFS 2024. I seem to be hearing the touchdown sound after the wheels have touched the ground. Like there is a 1 or 2 second delay before the sound kicks in. Is anyone else experiencing that? It is actually worse than no touchdown sound at all!

Edited January 16Jan 16 by Christopher Low