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Citation Sovereign+ Video Walkthrough

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Sorry for hijacking the thread.

I'm looking forward to the release of this beautiful bird.

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  • ryanbatc
    ryanbatc

    I'm going to comment because I had access to both the Phenom and the Sovereign prior to release (I guess due to me being good at painting or something hehe). The Phenom is a bit higher end than the So

  • ...picked it up and hour ago and have already flown a small sector from Humberside (EGNJ) to Teeside (EGNV) in the north of England. All I can say is that I love this jet! It's perhaps my favourite bi

  • toby23
    toby23

    First full flight in the Sovereign+ completed. Textures on the inside are great, subtle and not as dirty and aged as I think a lot of us have come to expect. If the Fenix A320 has the best cockpit tex

3 hours ago, UrgentSiesta said:

Found this on FSElite today. Looks like it’s going to be a Hi Fi addon, and they DID pay particular attention to flight model(😁)

Interesting that there are those in “The Community” who hold the Working Title Gx000 suite in such disdain. I had no idea that was a thing…?

Also interesting in re @ryanbatc’s comment about the dev team that they do claim the Da-50, also…

I think the article was worded a little weird... but I took it to mean that some people don't love the full glass suite, and they feel that it's a shortcut to just drop in Garmin avionics. The thing is, it's SOOO much work and there's no such thing as drop in, as it has to be setup for the aircraft. Because of the powerful WT architecture the Garmins are very versatile, in the hands of the right dev that is - meaning they can be highly customized. We've seen it already with the FSReborn Phenom 300E, the FlightFX P180, and the FSReborn M500.

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57 minutes ago, CFIJose said:

Can you please tell me if this version is the native 2024?

Can you open doors from the walkaround view? Then yes.

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4 minutes ago, ryanbatc said:

Can you open doors from the walkaround view? Then yes.

I'll check after my flight.

Thanks.

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13 minutes ago, CFIJose said:

I'll check after my flight.

Thanks.

Or at least take it down to 10k first! 😁

40 minutes ago, ryanbatc said:

I think the article was worded a little weird... but I took it to mean that some people don't love the full glass suite, and they feel that it's a shortcut to just drop in Garmin avionics. The thing is, it's SOOO much work and there's no such thing as drop in, as it has to be setup for the aircraft. Because of the powerful WT architecture the Garmins are very versatile, in the hands of the right dev that is - meaning they can be highly customized. We've seen it already with the FSReborn Phenom 300E, the FlightFX P180, and the FSReborn M500.

Could be. It just surprised me to see anyone take issue with the WT stuff in general.

I just don’t understand how anyone could “think” a from-scratch nav system makes sense for any dev. E.g., look at the trials and tribulations of the FSS E-Jets, etc.

IMHO it was a genius move for MS to unleash WT on the avionics, get them to a high leveL of func, and then ensure they’re open for all devs and extensible.

1 hour ago, ryanbatc said:

Can you open doors from the walkaround view? Then yes.

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I do remember clicking the free "buy button" a long time ago.

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47 minutes ago, CFIJose said:

I do remember clicking the free "buy button" a long time ago.

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If there are walkaround things then yes it should be the native one... I see it has the covers on the engines. SHould be able to open the nose lockers too.

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13 minutes ago, ryanbatc said:

If there are walkaround things then yes it should be the native one... I see it has the covers on the engines. SHould be able to open the nose lockers too.

Yes. I was able to open covers and remove the pitot tube cover.

I'm going to assume that the CJ4 is also a native v2024. Maybe I just got lucky and was awarded free upgrades.

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9 hours ago, CFIJose said:

Can you please tell me if this version is the native 2024?

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Yes, that's the 2024 native version.

On the right of that page, where it says "Compatible with....". The 2020 version says "MSFS2020 MSFS2024". The 2024 native version, just shows "MSFS2024" like above.

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FS2024 • Currently in 'GA mode' : A2A Comanche 2024 & Aerostar • Black Square C208, Bonanzas, Barons, TBM850, Dukes • COWS DA40 & DA42 • Bluesky Grumman AA5 • FSW Legacy, C24R Sierra & C414 • Echo Falco F8L • FFX HJET, Visionjet and P180 2024 • Got Friends A32 Vixxen • FSReborn Sirius TL3000, Sting S4 and Piper M500 • Flyboy Rans S6S • Skyward DA50RG • SWS Zenith CH701, RV-8, RV-10, RV-14, PC12 • Milviz C310R • Air Foil Labs Bristell B23 
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55 minutes ago, JYW said:

Yes, that's the 2024 native version.

On the right of that page, where it says "Compatible with....". The 2020 version says "MSFS2020 MSFS2024". The 2024 native version, just shows "MSFS2024" like above.

Thanks! That's why I posted the pic.

I think it was a few weeks after buying the standard version of v2024, that a few premium aircraft showed up as free purchases.

This is why I was confused that I kept reading that the upgraded versions were not native v2024. Since I only flew my beloved C510, I didn't even bother to test any of the free upgraded premium v2020 airplanes.

Now is the perfect time to test the Longitude. The Sovereign "should be" a nice upgrade. As always, I'll wait for the community to tell me if it's worth upgrading right away.

MSFS

We’re proud to present the official trailer for the C680 Sovereign+

The aircraft will be available on both Marketplace and Orbx for $29.99. Due to constraints in the Microsoft Flight Simulator 2020 Marketplace submission process, the 2020 release has unfortunately been delayed by a few weeks. We appreciate your patience and will keep you updated as we have more information. Clear skies ahead and happy flying in advance!

Not yet out for 2024 but they are hoping for today.

Edited by Zangoose

Vote to fix transparent  sun visors having no effect on the sun glare effect in MSFS at: https://forums.flightsimulator.com/t/sun-shades-sun-visors-not-influencing-light-in-cockpit/691565/

I'm so pleased that, unlike the last two purchases I've made (FSR Phenom and Aerosachs P-Mentor), I'm not forced to buy something I want, from the Marketplace and have no access to config files.

Huge shout out to Skyward Simulations for giving us the choice. I'm not Orbx's biggest fan because I've had issues with Orbx Central's downloader failing on every single purchase for about 3 years. (I can get them, usually after 5 or 6 cache validations per product). Attempts to get help on their sycophantic forum have been utterly fruitless.

But still, I am so happy to not have to buy something I really want, from the MSFS Marketplace.

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Bill 😎
FS2024 • Currently in 'GA mode' : A2A Comanche 2024 & Aerostar • Black Square C208, Bonanzas, Barons, TBM850, Dukes • COWS DA40 & DA42 • Bluesky Grumman AA5 • FSW Legacy, C24R Sierra & C414 • Echo Falco F8L • FFX HJET, Visionjet and P180 2024 • Got Friends A32 Vixxen • FSReborn Sirius TL3000, Sting S4 and Piper M500 • Flyboy Rans S6S • Skyward DA50RG • SWS Zenith CH701, RV-8, RV-10, RV-14, PC12 • Milviz C310R • Air Foil Labs Bristell B23 
TrackIR • BeyondATC • PMS GTN Payware • RealTurb • Axis & Ohs • FS Realistic Pro
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