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Man he was lucky!! That could have easily been a catastrophe! I wonder how much damage was caused by the wing scrape!! Must not has been too bad as he was able to continue the go around, and land!

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I saw that. I wonder if A-FLOOR kicked in?RhettAMD 3700+ (@2585 mhz), eVGA 7800GT 256 (Guru3D 93.71), ASUS A8N-E, PC Power 510 SLI, 2gb Corsair XMS 3-3-3-8 (1T), WD 150 gig 10000rpm Raptor, WD 250gig 7200rpm SATA2, Seagate 120gb 5400 rpm external HD, CoolerMaster Praetorian

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News today indicates that there were winds in excess of 155 mph in the area......there was no report of the cross-wind component, but guesstimating from the video it must have been well in excess of the ~30-35 knot limit...My question is, what were they thinking?

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what they were thinking was probably along the lines of "oh sh* oh sh* oh sh* why does this have to happen to us".Given the extent of the storm I wonder what their dispatchers were thinking when they decided to launch the flight...

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One of the worse days I ever had at Beale AFB Tower.A KC-135 from Castle AFB is doing a PAR approach to Beale on a training mission. About 1/2 mile final, the A/C develops a strong "dutch roll". Over threshold, and just prior to touchdown, A/C veers sharply left, and strikes the left wing and outboard engine. A/C actually touches down on the mains, but pilots initiate a go-around. As the A/C goes airborne, we see flames from the wing and outboard engine. Pilot declares emergency, and turns crosswind before departure end. Flames are clearly visible now, and as A/C begins turn to downwind, the A/C stalls, and crashes 1/2 mile from tower. The fireball completely filled my field of vision, I'll never forget that sight.Entire crew lost, 7 souls on board.RIP,bt

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>News today indicates that there were winds in excess of 155>mph in the area...the winds were NOT 150 mph. the metar at the time of the accident showed them facing about a 38kt gusty x-wind.i guess they forgot landing 102 and to dip the wing low into the wind when they released the crab. then the idiot actually allowed the upwind wing to rise up and get caught by the wind allowing the left wingtip to strike the runway.time for a little refresher in the sim.

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The passengers on the left side must have ^%&* themselves.JimCYWG

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150 Mph? hahaha, that's a tornado or a cat 5 hurricane. I don't think so, and no offense by the way. Anyway, having flown/flown on airplanes for the last six years of my life, I agree with CRJFO, pilot error big time, infact should have initiated that go around much earlier... definitely would have prevented that wing strike. "What was he thinking?!" for #### sure.Jeff

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and slam the thing onto the runway. Pilot error and ATC wrong clearance as well since the x-wind was way in excess and steady at that (as shown by the 40 deg approach).

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Somebody gave out the 100 mph crosswind figure because Brian Williams on the NBC News said the same stupid thing. Definitely must be a bogus number. But it looked pretty hairy! A lot of people on board wet their pants on this one. They even reported that Lufthansa was giving psychological counseling to anybody from the plane that wanted it. Kim

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It's amazing just before touchdown when it appears he starts drifting left of center, he cranks in even more of a crab angle...Isn't this how it's done in a B-52 btw (crab and the gear are then aligned to track parallel w/the rwy centerline)? :-O"Wing into the wind to stop drift and opposite rudder to point the nose down the runway"... I guess what's good for us little guys is good for the Heavy's too :-)Rob O.

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someone probably confused knots, mph, and kph in a news report.That day Schiphol had winds gusting up to 75 knots, or 150 kph, or 100 mph.Most of the day though winds were 35-50 knots.Hamburg probably had similar weather, and being located where it is could well have had worse gusts.

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My guess Bill it was this "Superman" attitude that sometimes afflicts us during our flight career (probably some other "factors" here too).You're warned about it happening, you swear to yourself you'll remain humble, and yet you find yourself in a predicament that exceeds your ability or the ability of the aircraft; and it becomes one of those "Never Again" experiences... that is, if you live to fly another day.Situations like this one... I'm just glad I wasn't the one being filmed.Rob O.

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Unbelievable.Under what conditions would they consider their alternate!? I have read before that a survey of ATPs was done where they admitted regularly continuing an approach in weather that is supposed to require a trip to an alternate airport but these guys take the cake. Imagine, they are being congratulated!I am glad the tickets I booked yesterday aren't with them!Steven.

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>Unbelievable.>>Under what conditions would they consider their alternate!? >>I have read before that a survey of ATPs was done where they>admitted regularly continuing an approach in weather that is>supposed to require a trip to an alternate airport but these>guys take the cake. Imagine, they are being congratulated!>>I am glad the tickets I booked yesterday aren't with them!>>Steven.>>>What alternate? All had the same conditions.

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it turns out an inexperienced, female FO attempted to land the airplane. gotta love those ab-initio programs!

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>it turns out an inexperienced, female FO attempted to land>the airplane. gotta love those ab-initio programs!I thought it was FO 101 that if your bank angles get too much on approach, you go around...?? Maybe the approach was within limits, until they got into the flare. ??RhettAMD 3700+ (@2585 mhz), eVGA 7800GT 256 (Guru3D 93.71), ASUS A8N-E, PC Power 510 SLI, 2gb Corsair XMS 3-3-3-8 (1T), WD 150 gig 10000rpm Raptor, WD 250gig 7200rpm SATA2, Seagate 120gb 5400 rpm external HD, CoolerMaster Praetorian

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>150 Mph? hahaha, that's a tornado or a cat 5 hurricane. I>don't think so, and no offense by the way.Why would I take offense at simply repeating what the news channels reported (FOX, CNN, ABC, CBS, NBC, et el)? Further, those were wind GUSTS up to 150 mph, not sustained winds. Check the METAR for Hamburg that day for further details... ;)

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>Agree also.>Had a 100% similar landing in a 172 with less than 100 hours>in kBax>-learned my lesson real quick...>http://www.mediafire.com/imgbnc.php/1b5baf...b9f427f694g.jpg>>My blog:>http://geofageofa.spaces.live.com/Understood Geof. Reminds me of a hot turbulant day with 90 degree cw from the right at 18 g 23 with my instructor in a 150.Made the landing, slight reduction of yoke pressure and up comes the right wing...no strike, made the recovery but will never forget the feeling of helplessness as we ran along on left wheel for a bit:-)

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>>150 Mph? hahaha, that's a tornado or a cat 5 hurricane. I>>don't think so, and no offense by the way.>>Why would I take offense at simply repeating what the news>channels reported (FOX, CNN, ABC, CBS, NBC, et el)? Further,>those were wind GUSTS up to 150 mph, not sustained winds. >Check the METAR for Hamburg that day for further details...>;)the max gust for the entire day at the airport was 55kts, about 63mph. and that wasn't the x-wind but from a 60deg angle to the runway.

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Really!? I just read that some other planes diverted.Steven.

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