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This is sad news indeed, not just because I enjoy the hobby. It seems even Microsoft subscribes to the mentality of "cut cut cut" to cope with the times. Sooner or later employers have to realize that they feed the cycle of recession by putting their employees, who in the end are consumers, out of work. I feel Microsoft should consider selling the team to an entity that specializes in entertainment software--there is still a market and always will be, I believe. Many of us are in our third decade of simming now and our children and grandchildren will pick up our passion and look to the "virtual skies"...Regards,John

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This is Bad news, but not totally unexpected considering the bad economy. I Guess we will have to wait a lot longer for the next version.I feel horrible for those that got laid off. I hope Microsoft re-thinks this. Rob

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I've long felt that MS have really outdone themselves with FSX. It represents a truly outstanding technical achievement, and I've suspected that, sooner or later, the corporate planners would reconsider the future of the franchise. After all, what do you do with yourself when you've achieved near perfection.I feel confident that FSX represents a major achievement for MS because, frankly, I've got a new dual graphics card rig with a Core i7 chip, and FXS looks great on it. I've got an amazing VC view of the richly populated FSX world streched over three widescreen monitors, and man! What a picture to behold!I remember not so long ago, when FSX was anounced in January '06, I was feeling kinda disappointed with FS9, and was really encouraged by the screenshots released by the studio. FSX was a great leap forward compared with previous versions of the sim, so I'm not surprised to hear that the planners are going to consolidate their gains and think about striving toward new horizons, whatever they may be.I hope they don't axe the upcoming Train Sim. I'm looking forward to seeing another view of the FSX world.

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That's crappy...What does this mean for the future of FS?

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Sad to see Phil but not unexpected given the current economic conditions.You, Hal, Z, Singer, and the rest of the guys at the Studio have done an outstanding job on your outreach to developers and the community.Thanks for all of your efforts and let's hope there is a turnaround at some point in the future.Meantime, Team Eaglesoft will continue to develop for both FS9 and FSX Platforms as they are the only game in town at this point :(

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That's crappy...What does this mean for the future of FS?
At least 4 options1. FS franchise goes into long term holding pattern (3-4 years for next version)2. MS concentrates on PC business and OS software ditches PC entertainment software to cut costs. Sells FS franchise3. EXP coming to shelf near you for 49.95 to recoup investment loses for MS 4. We all now eagerly await the next iteration of X-Plane since they're the only one left standing (ducks)

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What does this mean for the future of FS?
Frankly, I doubt that MS will abandon the development of the sim entirely. I expect that the development cycle will simply slow to a more managable financial pace. I look at FSX every day, and I can't ignore the affection which senior management must feel towards it, it has such an inspiring technical quality. After all, it's a microcosm of the world in which we live, so I doubt any one of us, management included, can ignore the affinity we feel for the world we love so dearly when flying over it.

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i was very sad to hear that Aces is taking a majority of the cuts here, obviously these are tough times for the economy and for employment but let go of the team that created minesweeper and hearts and keep the team that created such a huge staple for Microsoft. Vsita flawed? keep that team but FS, cut them. :( obvously this is going to put FS11 on hold for who knows how long, maybe train sim as well, not that i was looking forward to TS but wanted to see the new archetecure that FS11 may inherit. Phil Taylor made the jump at a good time, hopefully Intel doesnt follow suit.

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I expect that the development cycle will simply slow to a more managable financial pace.
I don't think there will be any 'pace' to speak of if virtually the whole team was disbanded. MS may change their mind when better time return but then it may be hard to get the same talent back. Obviously nothing is impossible in long run but if the above news is true it would probably mean no more work on FS in the next say 5 years.I feel for the folks who lost their jobs - they are the ones who truly lost.

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Hopefully they will be able to resume the development of FS11. Damn, that really sucks! I wish the best for all who lost their jobs today and pray that it will lead them to bigger and better things to come. I bet if MS didnt mess up so bad with Vista that the company would not be in as bad of shape they are today!

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I feel for the folks who lost their jobs - they are the ones who truly lost.
Agreed. Very sad :(

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i was very sad to hear that Aces is taking a majority of the cuts here,
What ? They are laying off 5 THOUSAND people, how many of those work for Aces ?I'm as bummed as anybody, but Aces is a flea on an elephant in the scope of the number of people loosing jobs.

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What ? They are laying off 5 THOUSAND people, how many of those work for Aces ?I'm as bummed as anybody, but Aces is a flea on an elephant in the scope of the number of people loosing jobs.
Of course you are right (I have at least three friends who are newish MS employees and I worry for them), however, ACES produces what is, by far, the most widely used (and in my opinion, best) of the desktop flight simulation software packages. This is going to set us ALL back significantly, ESPECIALLY those talented people who showed considerable grace under pressure in recent years.There is ample sadness to go around.

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Of course you are right (I have at least three friends who are newish MS employees and I worry for them), however, ACES produces what is, by far, the most widely used (and in my opinion, best) of the desktop flight simulation software packages. This is going to set us ALL back significantly, ESPECIALLY those talented people who showed considerable grace under pressure in recent years.There is ample sadness to go around.
If they would just end the free soda, we could have FS11 http://blog.seattlepi.nwsource.com/microso...asp?source=mypi

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I dont' get it34,000 employees ... only 1400 cut today ... and ACES has major cuts? How can Microsoft eviscerate its franchise players? I hope this news is misreported.

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I dont' get it34,000 employees ... only 1400 cut today ... and ACES has major cuts? How can Microsoft eviscerate its franchise players? I hope this news is misreported.
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I've been trying to contact people but this is just awful.They've basically ripped the heart out of ACES.

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I hope this news is misreported.
No, its not misreported.. it is true however they may sub out the work or reorganize but there is nothing at this point reported that FS11 or Trains is delayed and/or removed from MS developmentThat may change or be announced tomorrow or the next day.. who knowsbut until then we dont know know the status of future product and I dont think there should be any rumors about it until a confirmation on the products in question are defined from a official source

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This is disgusting news. I am so disgusted with corporate America right now. I myself work for the largest producer of smokeless tobacco in the United States, UST (US Smokeless Tobacco Co) ie, Copenhagen/Skoal and we were just purchased by Altria/Phiip Morris ie Marlboro and am facing the possibility of being layed off. What really gets my goat is when these big companies face a downturn in the economy or sales, and go straight to job cuts, all the while the CEO'S, COO's, CFO's, Board Members, etc. continue to pull in outragous salaries and bonus themselves more money than most of us will ever make in a lifetime. Then they have the nerve to say they are so sorry and congratulate us on all the years of hard work, we hope you well. This stuff makes me SO mad.Now, on the side I am an active trader and I can see where these publically traded companies make these decisions to satisfy shareholders and investors, but at the same time my heart goes out to those that are cut at Microsoft who have families to fee, mortgages to pay pay, etc. Although I have never owned MS stock, even if I did as a shareholder and trader of other companies I never agree with these decisisions just to make me a quick buck on a trade. It's almost as if the fat cats at the top have no heart at all and treat employees like live stock. They have so much money these people, that they have no idea what they are doing to peoples lives, especially in an economy like this. For once, just once, I would love to see a CEO step up to that table and say that he/she is going to either take a pay cut, refuse the mulitmillion dollar bonus that way the company can skip the layoffs. I doubt that this will ever happen considering that these huge companies are loaded with greedy CEO's and boards, but it would be nice to see for a change that we are all on the same team and in it together.I hope Phil is safe over at Intel. They are under a lot of pressure as well and I wouldn't doubt if we see them taking cuts over there as well. Hard to believe that Steve Jobs and Apple are blowing there earings out of the water and I hope Steve recovers from his most recent temporary departure with whatever is aling him.Sorry for the rant and probable spelling errors, but I am really fed up with this stuff and was typing really fast.Regards :(

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