Ahh, ok. I see what you mean. Thanks for the pic, Andre. :(I do remember the ERJ v1 pilots being somewhat larger though. The pics I have seen of the VC look awesome (my preferred place to fly from). Still debating if I am going to pick this one up. I just got the Maddog 2008 Pro and Airsimmer A320, so the wallet is running tight. haha

Your welcome,As for Feelthere and the ERJ series it's just great stuff and this one is a step-up from V1, far better VC and also in systems.Of course in every package you always have something to wish for I can certainly understand your point(s)...I agree they could have been asking some larger guys upfront lol but the rest of the package makes up for it :-)Aha the Maddog 2008 Pro is just a great package system wise should keep you busy for a while lolCheers,Andr

Just curious, but am I the only one getting an endlessness amount of CTD's? My A/C is pretty much beyond unflyable. Sometimes I barely take off before CTDSometimes it's in mid flight, sometimes during aproach.20 flights, and I have yet to land this thing. :( I have tried to reinstall it, restarting vistaaa.And I can't register at the iemit forums for some reason.

Service Pack 1 has just been released this morning, you can download it from the same place you bought the product, its a replacement installer not a patch.

Just curious, but am I the only one getting an endlessness amount of CTD's? My A/C is pretty much beyond unflyable. Sometimes I barely take off before CTD

Not a common complaint, from looking at the forum anyway.If you can't register at their forums, maybe try opening a new thread here with the specifics and details about your system.

Just curious, but am I the only one getting an endlessness amount of CTD's? My A/C is pretty much beyond unflyable. Sometimes I barely take off before CTDSometimes it's in mid flight, sometimes during aproach.20 flights, and I have yet to land this thing. :( I have tried to reinstall it, restarting vistaaa.And I can't register at the iemit forums for some reason.

My experiences with this aircraft are mostly good, however CTD's have occurred whenever the panel lights are on for night flying. It has never had CTD's during day flying. I haven't downloaded the new installer yet, I hope that resolves the issue.Curt

Philip,(I just noticed that you posting in FS9 forum also.)I have had crashes with the ERJv2.Approaching KORD fixes in the FMC disappeared .. I selected an approach waypoint and it crashed.So, at that time, I think it had something to do with the FMC .Also, It was with the the original product.Now I am using SP1 and have not done test flights.Are you using ERJv2 SP1 and a "house" livery for testing?After a crash the Windows Event Log will have the module that caused your crash.Go back an scroll through the log, find the reported problem and let us know what it says.

Are the pilots bigger in SP1? lol

Philip,My test flight with ERJv2 SP1 went well.And, if you are into weather radars, you can click a button and bring it up on the MFD:

Feel What?I'm flabergasted by the rave reviews posted here, I really wonder if I did get the same version.First this is not a simulation in any way so if you're looking for something serious you can move on and save your money. As an add-on game, I would say that the product is OK, average you get a bit more than native FSX A/C. Be aware that the nice pictures displayed on their website are not the A/C you will see in the simulation, these are renderings from the model in GMax.Be aware that this is a native FS9 product (circa 2004 according to some files); it has been adapted for FSX with more or less success (ex: spoilers animation, panel textures).I tested the software for 40 hours and waited for the SP1, before writing something. No in fact, to be straight forward, I had already writen off the product but yesterday, after installing the SP1 and realizing that it has (again) screwed up my installation I decided to give a shut at it. Conclusion? Nothing has change really, same basic lack of simulating anything; it's just a few switches and clicks with a somewhat FMC. The electric system is not simulated at all. Lights are a total mess (pilot panel switch turns on the pedestal, logo, activate the dome light switch). The yoke was a real PITA in the first version, I wonder if they ever tested it (the beta test team was composed of three testers). In SP1 they simply have a no-yoke version . . . where you can still see the whole where the yoke was. Apparently an animated yoke would have busted their "polygone" budget (was the excuse for not having the top position light in the first version). Nav, position, strobe and tail lights have been improved in SP1, I still wonder how a serious developper could have released a product with such obvious flaws. I did reposition and change the lights in the first version it was simply too much. Temperature is not simulated. The cockpit night textures prevents any attemps to flight a dark cockpit and the "panel light" blinds you.In fact the lists provided by FT is really inclusive; this is what you get nothing more. In the SP1, at the customers' request, they move the logo light to the battery! I don't see that in my manual, the logo light is simply not simulated; in real life the Logo light is not connected to the battery it does not make sense, the battery operating life is 10 minutes, connecting the logo lights on it will draw the battery in 4 minutes.Of course you cannot test the software, you have to buy it and rely entirely on the developer good faith and disclosure. Features should come with a negative disclosure; telling the customer what the product does NOT do, that would save a lot of time and frustration. For some developpers/publishers the list would be too long. Again it is all about expectations, I assumed that the major systems would be simulated for normal operation, but for someone else it may not matter and the simple act of flying a relatively correct exterior texture is sufficient to feed the illusion. Personally, I find it difficult to maintain the illusion when I have to turn on the "lights" to tune my AP because I can't see the nobs. It does not make me feel there :( Never get straight answers on their forum, very evasive on very specific questions. A good one was a comment from one poster, complaining of the A/C moving with the engines on idle: the answer (was along those lines; Mr. Scobie will certainly remember) was that this is the way it is . . . in FSX all the developers have to tweak the thrust for moving the aircraft because it sticks and therefore we have to increase the thrust, the recommendation was to use the breaks :( Thanks for the laughters :( My physic teacher had a different version of what Mr. Scobie described, he refered to the concept of inertia. So, inertia when combined with another crazy concept from an Englishman named Newton, change the moment of inertia and makes things moving when the proper amount of action (or Force) is applied. We're in for a jet ride B) . . . Anyway, The right answer would have been along those lines: the way to taxi the ERJ (according to real "Barbie jet" pilots, this is the ERJ nickname) is to taxi on ONE engine; First and last flight of the day (yes this is a commuter) on engine #1 (port engine) and engine #2 (the left engine) on short stops. Why is that? Because the 2 RR AE3007 A high by-pass turbofan(formerly Allison in the US) develop (7,427 lb btw has to be changed in the cfg file) too much thrust even at idle. And because the cargo door is situated on the port side having the engine #1 turned off when exiting the runway save time when parking and operating the cargo (safety requirement). Using this procedure, I can taxi my ERJ135 (or erj145) smoothly without using the breaks BUT I still need the APU ON to have my taxi lights ON yes my friends to get taxi lights you need the APU ON even with Gen 1 or 2 on. This of course is not what is described in the ERJ pilot forum but again this is not a simulation it is a game. Feelthere does not have an operator manual including the load, v1, v2, vref charts. This, again is simulation. Lucky me I have my ERJ forum. But again if you're not into flying then it does not have any impact; you'll still have your ERJ up in the air in no time (thanks to the RR AE3007 A turbofan).On another level, be aware that the software does corrupt the DLL.XML file thus possibly preventing add-ons like PMDG, Level D, CS, FSUICP to load and crashes FSX. So make sure that you DO backup your DLL.XML file before installing the product. Feelthere got me twice (original version and SP1; my fault for SP1, I simply forgot). For a full review of the problem you can consult PMDG website and read the article "How to Fix Your FSX DLL.XML File" This does certainly not apply to the very favorable posters here as they are certainly not PMDG or LevelD users.For a $60 (

... I have over 4,500 hours in the real one ... The Feelthere sim looks like it really does it justice.

so ...

Be aware that this is a native FS9 product (circa 2004 according to some files); it has been adapted for FSX

this is a false statement. the ERJ v2 for FSX contains three FSX native models. the ERJ v1 for FSX is a port of an FS9 model.

In SP1 they simply have a no-yoke version . . . where you can still see the whole where the yoke was.

so you remove a piece of the cockpit and you wish it to be replaced with what ... a cup holder? smiley face :( ? :( yes there will be a blank spot ... the yokes are removed!! :( how about we put pogo sticks in place of the yokes? B)

On another level, be aware that the software does corrupt the DLL.XML file

FALSE! if the PMDG development team wishes to have a 'one professional FS developer to another' discussion about this topic they are welcome to contact feelThere (contact links on feelThere's www-site and forums). for the past two years emails have been sent by feelThere to PMDG with no reply; and posts in PMDG's forum asking for the opportunity for an exchange of information have been deleted.--

Pat,I got the feelThere ERJv2 SP1 for FS9.FeelThere also gives you their ERJv2 SP1 for FSX (free).Both come with the initial download $47US.My United ERJv2 SP1 really needs a wash but I do not like the shinny new look.Other free liveries in there product are newer looking than the United.My landing spoilers are ok.SP1 was a good update.On my original install, and later the SP1 install, did not screw up my DLL.XML or anything else that I could see. I have always backed it up just in case. Maybe because now I have Vista32bit .. I do not know. I did not hear any other pilot's discussing it as an installation problem either ... Yet!How did it mess up you DLL.xml file?Like, did it delete part of it, change the modules loading or what?What did you have to do to correct it?And, on there "open to everyone" forum (no product purchase necessary to join the forum/tech support area), anyone can read about and post questions about past problems, current problems, and see first hand what fixes are in the works. Kinda nice to be able see what's up before you purchase. Or, feel free to ask a technical question on the forum if you want to.I also fly other aircraft.The LD763, PMDG737, F1-ATR, F1 441 ConquestII, DreamFleet Baron.And now the feelThere ERJv2 SP1. And, as a real world pilot myself, I think the feelThere ERJv2 SP1 is a very nice ride.

Mini soapbox .... out....I love it when someone had issues with a product and instantly know All the facts about the development, methods of making screen shots... etc.. and all when the vendor is on holliday.Miini soapbox ..... removed.Vendor states... native FS9 and FSX development .... who is stating fact here...?So I have a Flight Simulation ie. FSX and if I use a plane developed for the simulation... then I don't have a simulation ???Sorry you had issues with the install, I didn't so does that mean the product is flawed ? I guess my flawed PC and FSX install allowed the product to install fine.Since I'm not an ERJ pilot I can't comment on the accuracy of the aircraft. So am I to assume you are a certified ERJ pilot and are commenting on fact or simply perceived system operation based on perhaps a different product ?Everyone had their opinion....I like the aircraft, you don't so what.... I do believe you can return the boxed version but don't quote me on that.

On another level, be aware that the software does corrupt the DLL.XML file thus possibly preventing add-ons like PMDG, Level D, CS, FSUICP to load and crashes FSX. So make sure that you DO backup your DLL.XML file before installing the product.

Strange, I use all of those and quite a few more, and I was not aware that installing the ERJs (SP1 or SP2) corrupted anything.

The only thing holding me back from purchase is the lousy super bright/no options nite lighting in the pit... :(

Kilo60,"lousy super bright/no options nite lighting in the pit."You sound upset?What type of options are you talking about?What is the "pit"?Did you go to the forum and check screenshots or ask about night lighting?Could you post a screenshot of what you were looking at that was so bad.