PMDG 737 NGX: The View Forward

[ricky76 46]

This sucker is going to be worth the wait!!!! I see a lot of westjet flights in the future!!

[Guest ronhamilton]

This sucker is going to be worth the wait!!!! I see a lot of westjet flights in the future!!

Do you know where I can find a good CYYC for FSX? I tired the can UK one for FSX but it seems to still have some problem even with the Nigel Grant patch, unless of course I did something wrong.Ron Hamilton

[fencer 16]

Anything that adds to a pilot's situational awareness is likely to be a good thing.Al

+1 If it's in the real plane, then you can bet it's useful !And it's even better in a pc-based sim with a monitor severely limiting you field of view (see link with previous post below).http://forums1.avsim.net/index.php?showtop...t&p=1685971Bruno

[aceridgey 330]

Hoping dearly that the next release from the team is an annoucement of some sort,Just something to chew on, becuase 99% of us members havent got a clue on the progress of this aircraft,and we are eagerly waiting,

[SuperG 31]

My current PMDG 737 is about to go into storage

[dazz 69]

Your machine is overkill! why a 16 bit cpu? you'll never need more than 64K of RAM anyway

My current PMDG 737 is about to go into storage

[JC75 22]

+1 If it's in the real plane, then you can bet it's useful !And it's even better in a pc-based sim with a monitor severely limiting you field of view (see link with previous post below).http://forums1.avsim.net/index.php?showtop...t&p=1685971Bruno

Yes this is where the HUD will be really beneficial in FS, I have Track IR, running on Triplehead2Go across 3 22inch monitors and always fly in the VC of anything I am flying, but even then gettting a zoom or correct angle right that your view out the window and being able to see the instruments for an ILS approach can be sometimes tricky in certain aricraft, sometimes the view angle you get means that it distorts your perception out the cockpit window of your angle/height which in turn can effect your flare point etc. Havng the HUD will allow you to set the perfect forward view but still follow the needles.Even with track IR it requires a head movement rather than a flick of the eyes down to see the instruments(although it wont be long before someone develops an eye tracking device that will work with FS, I have used one already for some research work in my job) This is where pop up 2D panels are sometimes useful as you can pop up the PFD and move it higher whilst keeping the forward view centered, or even better docking the panel to a second montior. Or when my PC can cope with it have 6 monitors running on 2 tripleheads so the panel not only stretches width wise but also height wise.RegardsJames Carr

[belial_p 0]

If you think we're sacrificing systems and flight model for visual stuff on this, you have another thing coming. ;)Our beta team is made up of real life NG drivers and engineers and a core group of long time users who've proven themselves over the years to us.

Im not implying that. As far as I can tell, PMDG makes the best payware around. Just saying that I'd rather wait longer and not suffer from any malfunction. I own the 747X and the JS41, so I know what you guys are capable of, hence why this 737 will be a blessing. BUT I find there are a couple of flaws. The strange FSUIPC wind problem on the 744, wich BTW makes it a nightmare to fly on IVAO, and, regarding the JS41, the absence of a plane loading tool along with a panel state one. If the 737NGX is put on sale without any of what I consider issues like those, I'd be even more happy.And thx for the info on the beta team PMDG!Regards,Peter

[Tabs 2,790]

Peter,1. The "wind problem" is FSX's turbulence modelling, disable it and the problem goes away. It "works" by producing a ton of very fast wind shifts that are invisible to the wind readout in the sim, but are sufficient enough to confuse a high fidelity custom autopilot like ours. Most other addons are wrappers around the default FSX autopilot, which is why they're not affected. (but also why they're not as accurate in virtually anything else)2. The J41 costs $45, and the type of extra features that are on our full blown airliner products aren't preset by design. The NGX will most definitely have those. The J41 does have a load manager btw, it's integrated into the loadsheet below left window in the cockpit. Passengers and cargo get dynamically loaded right there in the sim, you can even see them get added visually in spot view.

[belial_p 0]

Peter,1. The "wind problem" is FSX's turbulence modelling, disable it and the problem goes away. It "works" by producing a ton of very fast wind shifts that are invisible to the wind readout in the sim, but are sufficient enough to confuse a high fidelity custom autopilot like ours. Most other addons are wrappers around the default FSX autopilot, which is why they're not affected. (but also why they're not as accurate in virtually anything else)2. The J41 costs $45, and the type of extra features that are on our full blown airliner products aren't preset by design. The NGX will most definitely have those. The J41 does have a load manager btw, it's integrated into the loadsheet below left window in the cockpit. Passengers and cargo get dynamically loaded right there in the sim, you can even see them get added visually in spot view.

1. Point taken, the problem is, with any kind of 'real weather' condition, the plane is frustrating to fly. Disabling it in solo flight is a pity but not catastrophic either. Now in multi (IVAO) the weather is downloaded all along the flight, and unless you quit both IVAP (their program) and FSX to disable weather, you cant do anything while you're flying. Now I understand this is a built in FSX flaw, but the result is there and as you point our it does not happen with other planes. Its nice to have a very realistic autopilot but if the result is as such, I'm dubitative as to its use. Maybe the answer would be to include full FSUIPC licence in your products, just saying.2. Ok, yes you can load passengers on the load sheet, and fuel via FS default menus but then again would developping a loading tool cost so much and justify the JS41 to be sold as much as the 744/MD-11? If yes then, I would be ready to pay for it. Now, tbh this isnt that much of a bother. I'm much more annoyed to have to cut down engines and set up everything C&D myself every time I start a flight. If there was a panel manager it would make things alot easier. If i try to start from the C&D flight provided in the tutorial and change location and/or livery my FMS will refuse to load.I know you can't please everybody and have to make commercial choices, but then I'm part of the ppl who are ready to wait or pay a little more not to have to cope with that sort of things. I'm not griping, I will continue to buy your produts for their incredible quality compared to many other editors that I've tried wich are downright theft, but then I think there still are flaws.Regards,Peter

[kamaz74 81]

i dont like hud's. its not for airliner planes. it should only be for military use only. this feature on the 737 i would never use.

The King Has Spoken!!!

[fencer 16]

The King Has Spoken!!!

King of troll maybe? But hey, on a slow day, it gave us a chance to discuss (again) an interesting topic.Rgds,Bruno

[chapstick 2,656]

Will the NGX get the visual passenger loading like the J41 has? I assume the windows will be see-through like the 747-8i, so I wonder if it'll be empty all the time or depend on what's set in the load manager.

[vscimone 16]

Will the NGX get the visual passenger loading like the J41 has? I assume the windows will be see-through like the 747-8i, so I wonder if it'll be empty all the time or depend on what's set in the load manager.

We are exploring ways of doing this that doesn't bring the sim to its knees... but it's in the plans!

[theace6 0]

i dont like hud's. its not for airliner planes. it should only be for military use only. this feature on the 737 i would never use.

If it's not for airliners then why does american airlines equip everyone of there 737's with a HUD? The reasons are it's cheaper to maintain a HUD system then full navigation equipment to allow for autoland, and it allows better situational awareness by being able to have the eyes focused outside instead of in the cockpit during T/O and landing.Kevin W.