Lets all agree that MSFS has given us (2) pretty decent platforms (FSX & FS9) that makes most of us happy in different ways. I'm ready to concede this......All the best,Mitch

I absolutely agree with that statement 110%.-Paul

I got myself a new rig (i7-920, 6GB Ram, GTX285) just before Christmas and was planning to stick with FS9 because of all the addons I have with it. I probably have about 200-240 airport addons both payware and freebies and there's no way that they are all available with FSX. So I was enjoying my FS9 on the new machine at a nice and smooth 50+ fps all of the time with everything cranked right up.Than I decided to try FSX on the new rig and right away saw the difference in terms of autogen with FSX excels at. The urban areas come alive as compared to FS9's so-so autogen. That makes the immersion factor greater for me. But like someone wrote here, once you get above a certain altitude, FS9 looks just as good as FSX. It's FSX's handling of how autogen displays, that is what makes the difference for me. I can run FSX at 30+fps with almost everything turned right up except for AI so frame rate is not an issue with FSX for me. But in FSX, I really miss all of the addon airports that I have for FS9 as I enjoy taxiing around customized airports very much.So for my VA flights, I use FSX if the cruise altitude will be under FL200 (due to the looks of the autogen) and use FS9 if the altitude is above that. No reason why a person can't use both.

Lets all agree that MSFS has given us (2) pretty decent platforms (FSX & FS9) that makes most of us happy in different ways. I'm ready to concede this......All the best,Mitch

I absolutely agree with that statement 110%.-Paul

So do I.

Wolfgang,Try to fly a bit lower. And then compare autogen quality and texture detail and it is certainly not the "large lifeless pastel wilderness" someone mentioned .... :( Anyway I do not want to enter a screeshot competion or a pissing contest with you. Some prefer FS9, others FSX, but please, do it for good reasons : FS9 : less visuals, better framerates, more addons but anything really groundbraking in the last 2 years ?FSX : better visuals, less framerates, less addons, but developpers still pushing the envelope. Neither of them are flawed. They are just different

Good points, Jean-Paul! I think I can go along with you there!And no, no pissing contest! :( Wolfgang

Someone had it spot on earlier. FlyTampa have far more legacy FS9 products on sale and therefore will see data showing much higher FS9 sales activity. PMDG have taken (imo the right) decision to focus on FSX as their sales data shows FS9 support in the marketplace is shrinking rapidly.Frankly, development for FS9 is much more difficult. The FS9 tech is now backwards. FSX allows a developer to do far more under the hood and get far better looking results. I know this because I have developed sceneries on both platforms myself. Working in FS9 and X quite often involves doing something twice, which attracts more time, and in the case of payware companies, more cost which is passed on to you - the end user.Lastly, I have been using FSX exclusively for nearly a year now and cannot agree with anyone who says FS9 is the future and FSX was a failed venture. It simply is not the case.

Lastly, I have been using FSX exclusively for nearly a year now and cannot agree with anyone who says FS9 is the future and FSX was a failed venture. It simply is not the case.

I think neither FS9 nor FSX is the future. Somebody stated earlier in this thread that both sims were dead end products. And I'm afraid he was right!Wolfgang

Jimburke - Fix your attitude and language please, I'm not sure of your age (by the looks of it, young), but no one in here is your chief or sport. Hope your next 5 posts are better then your first.

Well that reply was directed more to deltaflight due to his disrespectfull response to another member call him little buddy or something of that sort. Do I normally talk like that? No. Was I wrong in doing so? Perhaps, but I probably wouldn't have called him that if it wasn't for what he called that other guy. I am actually old not over 50 however, however I don't see anything wrong with any of my other posts. My attitude is fine thanks. I was just standing up for something I believe in.The point I was try to make to deltaflight, that he only posted a snip of my reply, was the nonsense he kept posting about what FSX can't do and I was simply saying that, yes it can do those things on my computer and that the generalizations he was making, while they might hold true for him, don't apply to everyone.In the future I hope that delta is more respectfull to others and quits with demeaning "little buddy" comments and the attitude that what ever he says is fact. The points I posted were just as valid as a user formerly of FS9 and now of FSX, even though I don't have a "motion simulator" hooked up to 9 computers in my living room.

Good points, Jean-Paul! I think I can go along with you there!And no, no pissing contest! :( Wolfgang

And you were right for the second screenshot, it looks like UT Europe and GE Pro, doesn't it ? Now, who hid that beerchug smiley ?

Someone had it spot on earlier. FlyTampa have far more legacy FS9 products on sale and therefore will see data showing much higher FS9 sales activity.

Thanks, that was me and that was the point I was trying to make.I didn't know that you actually developed sceneries for FSX and FS9. Are they freeware or payware? I would be interested to see them. BTW, even to this day your "End of an era" video is still my favorite FS video off all time, and in my opinion the best FS video I have ever seen. It's actually the only FS video that I continue to watch every now and then. For anyone who hasn't seen flyhalfs video "End of an era" is a must watch on youtube, make sure to turn the volume up so you can hear the music. Is it available to download anywhere in higher definition that what youtube offers?

Feedback can change developers' minds. Carenado announced they were going FSX-only, but reversed their decision when enough people said they were willing to pay for an FS9 version of their 172. Had FS9 users simply said "Oh well, those are the breaks" when Carenado initially announced they would stop making FS9 models, many simmers--and Carenado--would have been poorer for it.

It's a lot easier to make a small aircraft for FSX, then remake for FS9 than it would be for PMDG to make a FSX native 737NG, and then start over and make an FS9 one.

Well that reply was directed more to deltaflight due to his disrespectfull response to another member call him little buddy or something of that sort.

Yeah that was me that he refered to as little buddy. Thanks for trying to stand up for me, although its not necessary. As soon as I read thats guys response posted in the manner that is was, I disregarded what he was saying and figured he was probably just a teenager spouting off. I just left it at that and haven't posted since I dont like to stir the pot as they say, plus I dont have the time or energy to argue posts that just go back and fourth.

Xplane OWNS ALL SIMS!!!!jk ;)

Thanks, that was me and that was the point I was trying to make.I didn't know that you actually developed sceneries for FSX and FS9. Are they freeware or payware? I would be interested to see them.

Sean, there's a link in his signature :(

Sean, there's a link in his signature :(

LOL, thanks. I didn't even notice it.

------------------PMDG have taken (imo the right) decision to focus on FSX as their sales data shows FS9 support in the marketplace is shrinking rapidly.------------------Lastly, I have been using FSX exclusively for nearly a year now and cannot agree with anyone who says FS9 is the future and FSX was a failed venture. It simply is not the case.

Again- for what it's worth- since Jan 1 2010 until now, Feb24: the AVSIM poll question- "What is your primary simulator?" shows 31 votes for FS9 versus 14 for FSX.Agreed it is far too small a sample to draw conclusions- but I'm surprised at the better than 2 to 1 for FS9 in the most recent time period. These are simmers who hadn't voted before, so one might suspect they are mostly newcomers to our hobby. That being so, it would seem that FS9 may be around longer than many expect.Alex Reid