So we need to compare PNW and your trouble airports...

How do you propose we do that? Airports are small parts of the world and PNW is a huge part of the world. How can you possibly compare how many textures is FSX calling in one moment when loading the area in PNW? In an airport, it's easy...

But MLA's, like Flight Autosave, seem to induce a pause in the scenery engine that lets FSX avoid the GD3 CTD.

Yes, I know, that is why I said "by itself" - I ment that missing GUIDs, or solved GUIDs basically make no difference, only the PAUSE that MLA is causing makes a difference.

Just a thought: Could windows be running out of file handles? (or threads?) I assume FSX spawns threads to read the scenery files in parallel, so if FSX attempts to open too many files at once at some point a file open request is going to be denied, and since the module reuesting the file open is GD3.dll, then there we have our GD3 CTD. Now OTOH if FSX pauses due to MLAs or AutoSaves, then FSX can speed processing of scenery file load requests. As a file read request is completed, the system resources allocated to that fle read request are freed and can be recycled for the next file to be read and thus the file resources system resources are not exhausted. Perhaps there is an FSX congig variable for scnery file I/O resurces that can be increased?

This might be very well possible. Wouldn't know where to start on that one, but gonna take a look tomorrow.

How do you propose we do that? Airports are small parts of the world and PNW is a huge part of the world. How can you possibly compare how many textures is FSX calling in one moment when loading the area in PNW? In an airport, it's easy...

Good point, and the answer is embedded in the question: Only airports have large sets of scenery clustered in a small geographical area that would trigger large-scale scenery loads when suddenly included within the aircraft's LOD radius. So perhaps the culprit is not PNW scenery, but an airport/airports inlcuded in PNW?One thing to test: Find the exact lat/long of a GD3 CTD, and see what airports are at the edge of your LOD radius of that location and in your direction of flight. Now change the LOD, obtain the new location for the CTD, and see what airports are at the edge of your new LOD radius in your direction of flight. This can be done for PNW.NOTE: Fly at low altitude so LOD radius = DTG, otherwise need to adjust for altitude (as with DME).Another thing to try is a dummy airport with loads of objects piled in, designed to cause the GDR CTD. Then objects can be progressively removed (from 1,500 down to 500 in decrements of 100, with the number of objects in the file name) in subsequent versions of that airport until the GD3 CTD no longer occurs. Then one could test the various dummy airport (ICAO: DUMB) versions against the PMDG 744 vs. the 737 NGX and see if the number of airport scenery obects needed to cause the GD3 CTD remains constant or not.Cheers,- jahman.

, regardless of Maddogs, Kostas, or anyone elses uninformed opinions.

Hello JayMy opinions are not uninformed, just like you I also have a totally trouble free Sim with wonderfully smooth performance.Michael is not the only person that has spent many years working with this stuff you know.My approach to this is probably a bit different to many here, I work within the bounds of what my hardware and FSX can comfortably handle.Software that I come to suspect is giving the Sim issues does not stay on this system long, if a fix is not forthcoming then I delete it and move on.But I will try and find out what is happening and why. The work put in by some of these forum members is much appreciated here.And the difference is that they share it freely.Trust me when I say that many here could also configure your machine just as well as FS-GS without the fee or the attitude.

Hello JayMy opinions are not uninformed, just like you I also have a totally trouble free Sim with wonderfully smooth performance.Michael is not the only person that has spent many years working with this stuff you know.My approach to this is probably a bit different to many here, I work within the bounds of what my hardware and FSX can comfortably handle.Software that I come to suspect is giving the Sim issues does not stay on this system long, if a fix is not forthcoming then I delete it and move on.But I will try and find out what is happening and why. The work put in by some of these forum members is much appreciated here.And the difference is that they share it freely.Trust me when I say that many here could also configure your machine just as well as FS-GS without the fee or the attitude.

Please just let the uninformed go... if you ask me, he contributed exactly 0 to this thread.

Jim,I think you missed his point. We the user shouldnt have to pay to be a beta tester for faulty software, but unfortunatly we end up in that roll. When a problem is identified, it is up to the developer to isolate the issue and fix it. We can assist them to a certain point if we desire, but the ultimate responsibility is theirs, not ours.Now having said that, some here simply love to spend their time experimenting, tweaking, etc, and that is fine if thats what they like. For me, I bought FS to fly, not spend untold hours trying to fix it. I have many addons and zero problems, others arent so lucky and I do feel bad for them. Unfortunatly there are many like me who just want a working trouble free FS experiance, and when they do have an issue and dont have the knowledge to fix it, they come to these forums. And what do they see? Self proclaimed experts that direct them to try any and all 'fixes' without any knowledge of whether it will work or not. What usually happens is they end up screwing up their FSX worse than when they started, and get frustrated.I know everyone who posts are trying to help, well most of them. Some just like to see how many posts they can create and try to sound like an 'expert', when in fact they have no clue what they are talking about, and they do more damage than help. New users, and even some experianced ones are clueless as to who actually knows what they are talking about and those who dont, so they try everything posted. I know this because I was one of them, years ago.I, like many here, dont care about spending hours trying to fix a problem, I would rather just fly. My time is way too valuable to spend it poking around in areas I know nothing about. I treat my computer like a car, I want to 'turn the key' and have it work. I wouldn't expect a bricklayer to help find a cure for cancer, and I don't think you would either.Now in this case, PNW causes a problem and up to this point has not fixed it. Solution #1, disable PNW ( I did NOT say remove it).. Solution #2, dont fly in that area....Solution #3, dont buy a faulty product until it's working correctly (my choice). Everything else is just taking up time that could be spent flying and enjoying what this sim has to offer. I have many many addon sceneries and none create the issues PNW has caused, so it's simple for me, I just dont buy the software, no matter how great it is in other aspects.To each his own, but I will continue to use the tools available to me, and the folks at FS-GS are one of the best tools I know of if a users goal is to fly and not have problems, regardless of Maddogs, Kostas, or anyone elses uninformed opinions.

I certainly did miss that point that we are essentially beta testers for faulty software. Who said PNW was faulty software? We are looking for a solution to a g3d crash, which not only happens in the PNW area but in other areas of the world too. There is no problem with any of the software developed by Orbx as far as I know. It works with settings stated by the developers. Some of us would just like to exceed some of those requirements. I no longer get the crashes because I lowered by settings as recommended by the developer but I am interested in finding a solution. Even though you have a system "tweaked by FS-GS" you indicated PNW is also causing you problems. Evidently even running FSX with their settings you are still seeing problems in FSX and Orbx just like us? And you had to pay for it? That's not good!Best regards,Jim

IsJust sit back and close our eyes real tight and hope the next flight won't crash? Unbelievable post!Best regards,Jim

Hi Jim, your post gave me a chuckle, you take a swipe at a guy then your signature goes all polite and says best regards

I think you missed his point. We the user shouldnt have to pay to be a beta tester for faulty software, but unfortunatly we end up in that roll. When a problem is identified, it is up to the developer to isolate the issue and fix it. We can assist them to a certain point if we desire, but the ultimate responsibility is theirs, not ours.

"Dribble above deleted to save bandwidth."Show me a version of flight simulator that has not had users beta testing ? One of the worst Sims was FS95 and FS 2002, worse than FSX. No one on here has stated that they know everything there is to know, otherwise this thread would not exist. But you put a group of people together, and collectively can solve a multitude of things. You underestimate, rather badly, the object of this exercise.FS-GS Michael may have thought his support empire was going to be shown for what it is, how to delete files in 10 easy steps. His smart arse post on here did him no favours, infarct, I thought it was very unprofessional. We certainly don't need to hear your endorsements of FS-GS either, and as you need his services, maybe stick to non technical subjects.Anyway, no more talk about FS-GS.

Hi Jim, your post gave me a chuckle, you take a swipe at a guy then your signature goes all polite and says best regards

+1

Show me a version of flight simulator that has not had users beta testing ? One of the worst Sims was FS95 and FS 2002, worse than FSX. No one on here has stated that they know everything there is to know, otherwise this thread would not exist. But you put a group of people together, and collectively can solve a multitude of things. You underestimate, rather badly, the object of this exercise.

Prepar3D is sold in its entirety to beta testers who are funding its development

Prepar3D is sold in its entirety to beta testers who are funding its development

And when the beta test is finished, the price will go through the roof.

To each his own, but I will continue to use the tools available to me, and the folks at FS-GS are one of the best tools I know of if a users goal is to fly and not have problems, regardless of Maddogs, Kostas, or anyone elses uninformed opinions.

You should know by now Jay not to bother wasting your time and energy here. You and I being customers of Mike know the routine, we fly trouble free, although I still fly the PNW from time to time and have no issues, but needless to say people in general love to doubt and bash others who have success.I always get a laugh out of the comments about how so many people here have the same qualifications or better to set up and run a sim, when in most cases they probably have no idea what Mike's background and credentials are in the first place to even make a fair comparison. Also worth a chuckle is the statement that the people who use Mike's service are basically just a bunch of idiots who dont know a hard drive from from a floppy drive.Enjoy the circus of the all knowing experts. I'll continue to enjoy my Mercedes of a sim while I watch the others try and soup up their Pintos. After all, you and I are just a couple of idiots who haven't learned a damm thing since we didnt do it ourselves and we have to run with all the settings turned down. :-)

You should know by now Jay not to bother wasting your time and energy here. You and I being customers of Mike know the routine, we fly trouble free, although I still fly the PNW from time to time and have no issues, but needless to say people in general love to doubt and bash others who have success....

That's why we need test flights that are guaranteed to cause the GD3 CTD, so we can see if what you say is true. Heck, if it is we'll all go to FS-GS to get our systems tuned! Res, non verba! Cheers,- jahman.

We certainly don't need to hear your endorsements of FS-GS either, and as you need his services, maybe stick to non technical subjects.Anyway, no more talk about FS-GS.

Heres an idea Julian, if you dont like what I post, dont read it, meantime I will post what I want, when I want, as long as it complies with the forum rules, and you can put your attitude where the sun don't shine, sonnyJim, check your PM's

Hi Jim, your post gave me a chuckle, you take a swipe at a guy then your signature goes all polite and says best regards

Harsh and courteous at the same time!

Heres an idea Julian, if you dont like what I post, dont read it, meantime I will post what I want, when I want, as long as it complies with the forum rules, and you can put your attitude where the sun don't shine, sonnyJim, check your PM's

Heres an idea Julian, if you dont like what I post, dont read it.....I didn'tI will post what I want, when I want,...You Canas long as it complies with the forum rules....It didand you can put your attitude where the sun don't shine, sonny.....have you got a torch

Heres an idea Julian, if you dont like what I post, dont read it, meantime I will post what I want, when I want, as long as it complies with the forum rules, and you can put your attitude where the sun don't shine, sonnyJim, check your PM's

There's also a thing called trolling.