Yes - Saitek. I have the old model - Rudder Pedals with Toe Brakes. It does the job well and never had problems with it and best of all it is not dust sensitive. It is not the prettiest thing but considering it will be always under your table, the appearance doesn't really matter. With them taxi around the airport is breeze and adds to the immersion. The toe brakes help as well. You won't use rudder much once in the flight, but it does help for some hairy crosswind landings.Now they have a "new" model - Combat Rudder Pedals. The base is the same, only they have changed the plastic pedal pads, with metal ones. Sure they look more appealing now.For your consideration:http://www.saitek.co.../compedals.html

the throttle quadrant was even MORE klunky and space-eating, and appeared very cheaply made. When I moved the throttles to 0, it required a lot of effort to avoid going "too far" (thus engaging the reverse thrusters).

You're right about the throttle quadrant. I quit using them a long time ago. In the two or three years that I have used the yoke, I have never had any problem with it. It works as smoothly today as it did when I bought it. I would love to have one of those real Boeing 737 looking yokes, but spending $2000 for a yoke is far beyond me and they look like they take up a lot more space, being mounted on a pedestal.

You're right about the throttle quadrant. I quit using them a long time ago. In the two or three years that I have used the yoke, I have never had any problem with it. It works as smoothly today as it did when I bought it.I would love to have one of those real Boeing 737 looking yokes, but spending $2000 for a yoke is far beyond me and they look like they take up a lot more space, being mounted on a pedestal.

I have seen the "real looking" yokes as well - and they certainly are "as real as it gets". I saw a guy who built a simulator in his bedroom that filled the entire space (the whole room) with his sim equipment. That cost $30k according to the article I read. Another built a sim in a warehouse and invested $300,000. I am trying hard to avoiding spending that much. It's kind of amazing that no one has built an aircraft-themed park, kind of like Disneyland on Steroids - where you could fly real simulators all day long. Now I'd pay hard cash to go there for a day!I was looking on eBay to see if any of the Precision Flight Controls devices were up for sale, there were one or two listed. The sellers were asking 'all the money' for them. I'm glad you're happy with your Saitek yoke. It seems people either love them or hate them. I had a problem with the Saitek rudder pedals, they slid around like crazy on my carpet - and were miserably uncomfortable to use for that reason. I guess I'm stuck with my current old-school Thrustmaster T.flight Hotas joystick for a while longer :(sigh...

I seen a setup that I would like to have advertised on the "My Cockpit" forum http://www.mycockpit.org/forums/content.php but I haven't seen the ad come up again. It is a realistic half-cockpit home simulator for about $9000 with the Boeing looking yoke. That is just expensive enough to be out of reach, but cheap enough to make you want it.

Hmm...got mine on carpet..if you look at the back plate, on the bottom, the bit thats againt the floor...there are 2 slightly indented..i dunno, rectangles...they are there to stick the rough side of velco to, whitch grip the carpet.( i do need to have no pressure set tho)

Apart from it not having "native" rudder, you WILL NOT regret getting a WH! It's amazing!I think the thought process was as follows at TM: People buying such a expensive piece of kit will probably already have a rudder pedal set. (I'm in no way affiliated to TM, nor do I speak for TM etcetc...)It's expensive yes, but if mine were to break I would buy another one in a hearbeat!Bytheway: I use the WH with DCS (A-10C, BS2, BS1), FSX (ranging from NGX to piper cub), Flaming Cliffs, IL-2 and Rising Flight.

One thing I don't like about the Warthog: the stick does not go back to center in a straight line but always wants to move in a slightly circular fashion. Seems to be a drawback of that ball-bearing design. Personally I would prefer a behavior similar to a sidestick.Also, the throttle grips are a tiny bit loose. At least with my unit the stick started to move with a little stickiness at times, which is the only one of the negative points that I actually notice while flying. There are tutorials on the net on how to fix the stickiness effect.On the bottom line I think it is an excellent unit that seems to hold up well, too. I had the original TM Hotas as well and the build quality was unbelievably bad with enormous amounts of play in the stick after a couple of months.

One thing I don't like about the Warthog: the stick does not go back to center in a straight line but always wants to move in a slightly circular fashion. Seems to be a drawback of that ball-bearing design. Personally I would prefer a behavior similar to a sidestick.Also, the throttle grips are a tiny bit loose. At least with my unit the stick started to move with a little stickiness at times, which is the only one of the negative points that I actually notice while flying. There are tutorials on the net on how to fix the stickiness effect.On the bottom line I think it is an excellent unit that seems to hold up well, too. I had the original TM Hotas as well and the build quality was unbelievably bad with enormous amounts of play in the stick after a couple of months.

Thanks for sharing this information. I have read about 're-greasing' the Hotas Warthog, and I find that to be VERY unappealing on a device I have to pay $400 USD to purchase!!! Your comments about the wierd behavior of it returning to center is equally disturbing. I'm now more confused than ever :(

Regarding the above comments: I've not had a single problem with my WH. Regarding re-greasing: that might be required, but it was not necessary for mine. Regarding the returning to center: I really can't feel/see where you are coming from. Mine just returns to centre in a straight line, in all smoothness.

The TM Warthog is an excellent controller that uses Hall Effect sensors instead of the usual industry-standard cheap pots for the joystick and both throttle axes. None of the yokes use them yet, including the very high-end stuff. I have an older Thrustmaster Cougar that I retrofitted with custom gimbals and HE sensors a few years back, and based on that experience I just finished retrofitting my floor-mounted PFC yoke, throttle quadrant, and rudder combo with HE sensors (and a 12-bit USB interface) as well. HE sensors are the state of the art right now--they just can't be beat for precision, accuracy, and stability--and unlike a pot, you won't have to replace them in a year or two when they wear out and start spiking.As far as rudder pedals--any USB pedal set will work. I have a set of the $200 Saitek combat "pro" pedals that I use with my Cougar when flying fast-movers or when flying in a two-man side-by-side config...better still would be the PFC Cirrus "jet" pedals (~$600). The Saitek pedals are metal and plastic...the PFC ones are heavy-duty and all-metal (about 15 lbs worth). I've had my PFC stuff 10 years now...the mechanisms are still like new, with no discernable play after a decade of heavy use.

Having used the Warthog a lot in the DCS A-10C sim before using it to fly the NGX. I can say that the stick is a great piece of kit. I have had no trouble with the smoothness or quality of the WH. Now I do admit it does take a little bit of imagination when flying the NGX since the real one has a yoke instead of a joystick.A few years ago I had a great opportunity to chat with a real "Hog Driver" and when I asked him about flying the real thing this is what he related to me. The real aircraft takes some getting used to, although you wouldn't think the aircraft would bank hard left with just the slightest touch of the stick, it will, very easily. So his instructor told him to fly the jet and only use the autopilot when he needed to concentrate on something other than flying and to use a gentle touch when trying to get the aircraft where he wanted it to go.Why did I tell that story. The stick does take some getting used to and the more you can hand fly, the better it will help you adjust to getting it just right and becoming a proficient pilot with what ever aircraft you fly it with. I would highly recommend this kit to anyone who can afford it. it will most likely be the closest I will ever get to flying the real Warthog. Now if only PMDG would put afterburners on the NGX so that I can make up time when I'm late

I also hated the Saitek Pro Flight Yoke System. Aileron axis turn only 45 degrees. Squeeky aileron axis, sticky elevator axis. Unreliable product, it may short-circuit if you put another device in it without a power adapter (which isn't stated in teh manual). Right now, I have the Saitek Cessna Yoke, and what a difference. It just makes flying so much better than with that old stupid Saitek Pro Flight Yoke. The Cessna Yoke has a full 180 degrees of travel (90 degrees to each side). It's much smoother (both aileron and elevator). Throttle quadrant axis are also much smoother. I highly recommend it.

Having used the Warthog a lot in the DCS A-10C sim before using it to fly the NGX. I can say that the stick is a great piece of kit. I have had no trouble with the smoothness or quality of the WH. Now I do admit it does take a little bit of imagination when flying the NGX since the real one has a yoke instead of a joystick.A few years ago I had a great opportunity to chat with a real "Hog Driver" and when I asked him about flying the real thing this is what he related to me. The real aircraft takes some getting used to, although you wouldn't think the aircraft would bank hard left with just the slightest touch of the stick, it will, very easily. So his instructor told him to fly the jet and only use the autopilot when he needed to concentrate on something other than flying and to use a gentle touch when trying to get the aircraft where he wanted it to go.Why did I tell that story. The stick does take some getting used to and the more you can hand fly, the better it will help you adjust to getting it just right and becoming a proficient pilot with what ever aircraft you fly it with. I would highly recommend this kit to anyone who can afford it. it will most likely be the closest I will ever get to flying the real Warthog. Now if only PMDG would put afterburners on the NGX so that I can make up time when I'm late

Well said, i cant say enough about it either

About the rudder,I use the Trim leaver, OK it's not perfect but if your main aim is for the NGX, when are you going to use the Rudder? Taxiing? So please don't think about getting one any longer, get one and get a great big smile from ear to ear on your face, I had the old Cougar and I can tell you this Hall Effect sensors makes every else obsolete.I would stop sim'ing if I was without one.

Hmmm ... why not get a yoke? Why a stick?The NG ain't Airbus ...