I plan to upgrade to Flight in 2015? What about you?

[Ranger Dan]

RangerDan, have you tried a 172 addon yet such as one of the Carenado 172's?I am one of those that kind of hopes Flight turns out to be some kind of x360 buttonmasher game , or a "Vista" for real flight simmers so that it delays a real hardcore simmer FSXII for a few more years like Windows 7,so that my FSX addons last a bit longer, lol.

I haven't gotten any addon's yet I'm still deciding on my direction. What's a buttonmasher? I always thought a touchscreen vitural cockpit would be soooo cool! Final thought I make films for our campgrounds and I'm working on a vitural space film designed to be fun and educate children about our universe so I'm getting an even more powerful computer then my present 8GB Quad core, 1 terabyte, GeForce 9100 graphics. I'm looking at an i7 with an ultimate graphic package and multi screens needless to say what makes a great video editing computer also makes for an awesome SIM computer. Winter here in the Cascades can be long and boring so my computer is my recreation and no, I don't ski . You can see scenes from my films here.. http://www.youtube.com/user/GeocaverDan?feature=mhee#p/u/0/g8_tL5LutdE

[DAD]

I bet you won't be the only one

Count me in, too

[HughesMDflyer4]

As for Flight? i see it as a service pack for fsx there is nothing new, and really nothing much better, than the current fsx if you have some of the scenery upgrades and aircraft that are now available.

Apparently you have not seen what Flight's graphics engine is capable of that FSX's is not, even with aircraft or scenery add-ons...

[tgenius]

Assuming Flight turns out to be what I hope, then I will definitely wait a few years before I buy it. The reason is simple, by then all the patches and a wide range of non-worthless addons will be out by then. I dont have any real excitement towards playing the vanilla version of Flight. I'm more interested to see what kind of third party options are available to make it a complete experience. I esimate that it will take 2-3 years to come around, I can wait, I still enjoy FSX and with all my addons it looks better than anything else out there including Flight.

[Ben Cap]

Apparently you have not seen what Flight's graphics engine is capable of that FSX's is not, even with aircraft or scenery add-ons...

I seriously think a blind community posts in these forums....

[Heliguy]

Well considering I built the rig in my description to support FSX and Flight, I'm going to be one of the first to run it and cant wait :D oh yeah and that Beta :(.

[Guest JSkorna]

See, you didn't know Brandon had a pre-beta copy of Flight and he has seen it all.

[HughesMDflyer4]

See, you didn't know Brandon had a pre-beta copy of Flight and he has seen it all.

I have what now?

[magnetite]

I'll try Flight when it comes out, but to be honest, I'm getting good performance with FSX. Sure I might not be able to run it all maxed out, but it does what I need it to.I don't need 100% traffic or max autogen to have a good flight.

[greengriffon]

I have what now?

He was a making a joke, at your expense.

[pwc1]

Even when I get Flight next year, I'll still play FSX too, until I wean myself off of it.

[JonP01]

As for Flight? i see it as a service pack for fsx there is nothing new, and really nothing much better, than the current fsx if you have some of the scenery upgrades and aircraft that are now available.

That being the case, let us hope that this time round, after 6 years, they have gotton the aileron animations correct on the Maule model...In all seriousness though, there are a lot of visual elements in FSX that could be significantly improved upon and if the game is optimised correctly for current GPUs and CPUs, it would not surprise me at all if it ran better on the same hardware than FSX currently does.I generally just run four games at a time on my gaming machine - the current version of the MS flight Simulator (so FSX), a racing sim, an FPS game and combat flight sim. FSX is now looking extremely dated on my machine compared to the other three games (all of which were released within the last 18 months) and to be honest it is not holding my attention now that I am used to the highly sophisticated graphics (and lighting in particular) of my other games. Even the superb ORBX scenery just doesn't cut it for me - spoilt as I have been by other games that take advantage of the latest graphucs without any performance penalties. All my other games run at least as well as FSX despite the far better graphics, and seem to keep all my i7 CPU cores better occupied than FSX does.Personally I hope Flight has been done completely from scratch, because a break needed to be made from the old code base at some stage, and this 6 year break was as good a time as any to do so.

[Toys_R_Us]

I can say all kinds of things now, but the reality is that the first time someone makes a message post saying that the frame rates are good and the blurries are gone, I'll be in my car or whatever racing to get it ASAP. And I'll probably break down and also be buying whatever it takes to take advantage of anything new they put in it to help it even further.That's my reality, weak knee'd fool that I always am when I actually get my hands on any new version.Bob - Las Cruces, NM.

[dtrjones]

Moreover if FSX is any guide, today's computers will most likely not be able to handle it well.

Hi Sam, I think your comments are mostly fair, I'm not sure about you holding off from Flight for another couple of years though - Why?Regarding today's PC not handling Flight, it's a bit disrespectful of Microsoft's information and claim to build a Simulator for todays generation of PC's. Also you've completely ignored the impact of a 'gaming' world (awards, acheviements, richer online play) adding to the fidelity and diversity the current Flight sim experiance,i.e.1) I don't necessary implicate gaming tendancies to be anti hardcore - I'm sure there'll be interest for experienced flyers. 2) the possibility exists that Flight could actually add something new and therefore be viable alongside FSX not instead of it.I'm with you on not upgrading - I think a Sandybridge 2600 i7 should keep me afloat for a few years anyway :) we just have completely different reasons for keeping our rigs intact. I don't have many add on's though and not much other hardware but I'll ask you again, can you really hold off from buying Flight, why not just treat it as another add on and use it in isolation, I think we put too much emphasis on moving platform when a lot of simmers probably have or have had more than one Flight simulator installed on the PC at anyone time.Happy Flying.Cheers,Dave.

[Darth_Vapor666]

Hi Sam, I think your comments are mostly fair, I'm not sure about you holding off from Flight for another couple of years though - Why?Regarding today's PC not handling Flight, it's a bit disrespectful of Microsoft's information and claim to build a Simulator for todays generation of PC's. Also you've completely ignored the impact of a 'gaming' world (awards, acheviements, richer online play) adding to the fidelity and diversity the current Flight sim experiance,i.e.1) I don't necessary implicate gaming tendancies to be anti hardcore - I'm sure there'll be interest for experienced flyers. 2) the possibility exists that Flight could actually add something new and therefore be viable alongside FSX not instead of it.I'm with you on not upgrading - I think a Sandybridge 2600 i7 should keep me afloat for a few years anyway :) we just have completely different reasons for keeping our rigs intact. I don't have many add on's though and not much other hardware but I'll ask you again, can you really hold off from buying Flight, why not just treat it as another add on and use it in isolation, I think we put too much emphasis on moving platform when a lot of simmers probably have or have had more than one Flight simulator installed on the PC at anyone time.Happy Flying.Cheers,Dave.

Dave, you raise some good points. My motivation to resist upgrading is mainly driven by financial reasons. I know a significant amount of time has lapsed since the release of FSX, especially in contrast to prior versions which were released much closer to one another. But as with FS9, FSX is different in that it boasts a very large number of 3rd party add-ons. Infact i wonder if FSX has the largest collection of add-ons of any game ever. It is this investment in add-ons that makes it so hard to walk away from. And if it turns out that Flight offers backward compatibility for FSX addons, I will be among the 1st to get it.Regarding my disrespectful statement casting doubt over MS's claim to build a sim for current generation pc's, I will believe their claims when I see Flight playing on today's PC's. As for speculating on the target market, I do not have the sources or interest to do that. Will leave that to the experts on this forum. I totally agree with your comment about some of us putting too much emphasis on moving platform. Maybe it should not be so, but that's the way it is. I gave away FS9 the minute I got FSX. I had numerous addons for it too. It's just that some of us are programmed to go all or nothing. Being 6 years older and wiser, I wish to go down the 'nothing' path this time.I have read comments in forums about FSX belonging to a past era or past its use-by date. They make me wonder how I'll be able to resist Flight with all it's technological advancements and promise of 'as real as it gets' in 2012 versus FSX's promise applying to 2006. In computing terms, the gap is like an eternity.In my opinion, the most important question to consider would be what (if any) edge does a stand-alone Flight offer over an addon enhanced FSX? As vital as it is, FSX is like a skeleton for many of us, with addons bringing it to life. And while we often hear developers blame it (rightly I suppose) for the limitations it imposes, it's hard to ignore that within these limitations, the cutting edge stuff these developers are delivering us today is built for FSX. Take EZCA 3 and ASE2012 as examples. Based on what they are showing us in previews, both redefine excellence and realism in flightsim. Considering they are both for FSX and still not out, love it or hate it, the platform is here to stay for atleast as long as FS9 already has.The discussion can go on and on. There's just one way to resolve; MS release Flight already so we can get a break :)Kind regards, Sam