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Yoke for flying the NGX

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Hi guys, I'm currently controlling the NGX and all other planes in FSX via an old and half broken Saitek stick. It is doing its work but I think I should change in the future. As I mostly fly planes with yokes and seldomly fighters or Airbus I think of getting a yoke. Which one can you advice me?! Please keep in mind that I currently go to school so I don't get that much money to spend and I don't wanna wait to long till I have the money. And btw how does it feel flying the NGX with a yoke?!

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Steffen,My opinion is simple: if you can't afford a decent yoke (PFC, VRInsight), don't buy a yoke.All those plastic yokes are, IMO, waste of money.Just get a good stick, if you can find it, MS FF2 - very precise stick, with optical LED sensors. FSForce is a software everyone recommends with it.Anyway, that's me.

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Spending $600+ on a yoke isn't an option for many. It's also hokey flying a Boeing with a joystick. or so I think.I'm more than happy with my Saitek Pro Flight Yoke. It's served me well for 3+ years. My friend finally took the plunge and bought a new yoke. He purchased the Cessna Yoke by Saitek, and it's wonderful! The CH feels cheaper in my opinion, and the mount is junk (though it fits confined desks better).Pedals are a must if you're using a yoke. I've used CH pedals for 4 years; They're tough and compact.

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Don't bother with CH Yoke. I have one and it's been sitting in the corner for some years now. Cheap and unrealistic. I'll be looking at the Saitek yoke next time around, but right now, the X52 does me fine.

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Don't bother with CH Yoke. I have one and it's been sitting in the corner for some years now. Cheap and unrealistic. I'll be looking at the Saitek yoke next time around, but right now, the X52 does me fine.
Well, maybe I am wrong because I am not a real pilot, but I haved used my CH yoke a lot for 5 years. For me it is perfect!

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Go for the saitek pf + pedals & try my yoke mod. It takes out all the toy-feel.

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Saitek yoke, and pedals for me. Once tried a friends CH, did not like themJfriz

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Didn't like my CH either, sold that baby on Amazon and got back some of what I spent for it.

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I have the saitek yoke and it works fine once you get rid of the crappy spings and do both of the rubber band mods.

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Well, maybe I am wrong because I am not a real pilot, but I haved used my CH yoke a lot for 5 years. For me it is perfect!
I am a real world pilot (PPL) and my CH yoke serves me OK. Ailerons are good, elevators are a bit spiky. Other than that, calibration and setup, e. g. through FSUIPC, dead zones, response curves etc. can make the difference between crap and acceptable.

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For me, and mind you I only fly one plane right now, the socata tb9, my only complaint with the saitek pf is the limited pitch travel. Roll limits match the Tampico almost perfectly, but I keep wanting to pull back on my saitek yoke another foot or so more than it'll go. Luckily it's built into my new desk & won't fall out into my lap...http://i381.photobucket.com/albums/oo255/sehlah/Mobile%20Uploads/IMG_1457.jpgTop monitor is touchscreen & the wife is ordering a trim wheel for my birthday next week to fill that void beside the tq's...

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One thing, DO NOT buy the Saitek Pro Flight Yoke. I have had two of them, and both have let me down. First of all, it doens't have 180 degrees of turning but only 90 (45 to each side). Also, the lubrication is so bad, that after a while the aileron axis gets squeeky, and the elevator axis will be sticky from the beginning. And after around a year, there's a good chance it will get broken. Because if you put another device in it (like the comm panel), without a power adapter, then after a while the yoke will get short-circuited. The throttle quadrant is good though. So again, if you want a yoke, DO NOT get the Pro Flight Yoke. What I have at the moment, is the newer Saitek Pro Flight Cessna Yoke. Men o men, what a difference. So much smoother, a full 180 degrees of turning, feel so much more solid, and more precise also. Handles the NGX so well... If you're looking for rudder pedals. The ones from Saitek are OK imo.

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All right guys, what I understood so far is that the Saitek Pro flight yoke is crap and als the CH products are not perfect. The Pro Flight Cessna yoke looks decent but 200€ is really heavy. (I should have to wait two months till I have the money!) The quadrant should be mine for arround 50€. But which pesals to get? shouldn´t be too expensice.btw. does the Pro Flight Cessna Yoke ship with a quadrant or do I have to get that speperate?What I have to add is that I have pretty mixed experience with Saitek products. I oncve had an X52 but only for one evening. At first it worked flawlessly but after installing the additional drivers and the Saitek software, the rudder axis refused to work. So I returned it so the shop and got an Saitek Cyborg X stick. It´s nice but I had to fix an broken welding on the rudder axis. After that it worked for quite a time and then it just seemed to be broken again. I´ll have to fix this one day.Currently I´m flying with an old and very used Saitek Cyborg Evo. It was my second one (After an simple one without an rudder axis.) and despite of its broken arm rest it works absolutely correct since day one.

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In my opinion the saitek pf is not crap. It's an entry level yoke same as ch so one can't expect perfection. It can be made to feel much better than it does out of the box.

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The CH yoke isn't perfect, but I think it's good value for money.A big advantage of the Yoke over a joystick is that you can control the plane with your left hand on the yoke whilst clicking round the cockpit using the mouse in your right hand. This is much more difficult to do with a joystick, especially one moulded for the right hand and usually placed close to the mouse on the right side of the monitor.

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I have the saitek yoke and it works fine once you get rid of the crappy spings and do both of the rubber band mods.
A little moar info please. You got me intrigued :D.

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I have the saitek yoke and it works fine once you get rid of the crappy spings and do both of the rubber band mods.
Great, so you gotta mod the product for it to work good. Nice approach.I had two Pro Flight yokes, and both had a very sticky elevator. Even after really heavy modding I wasn't able to get it working alright.I'm keen to order Cessna Yoke to try it out - EDIT: I just saw some videos on youtube concerning Cessna yoke, and the movement seems WAY smoother than what I owned with Pro Flight Yoke in the past.Man, when I see this video, of this KID owning all that stuff, I get sick, check this out LOL:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eV-79CBI-_g

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A little moar info please. You got me intrigued :D.
Tommorow I will look up the posts I got the info from and post them for you. two really easy mods. What they basicly do is trash all the stock spring mechinisms and replace them with rubber bands. No more sticky elevator. I did this mod after one day of usign the yoke, I found it unusable in stock form.

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A little moar info please. You got me intrigued :D.
Just check my signature

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Don't bother with CH Yoke. I have one and it's been sitting in the corner for some years now. Cheap and unrealistic. I'll be looking at the Saitek yoke next time around, but right now, the X52 does me fine.
Tried to buy the X52 this weekend but the shop was out of stock. I may have to buy on-line. I really like the idea of yoke and pedals but it would be difficult for practical reasons, not to mention the cost. Eventually I'll go that way but I think the X52 will see me right for a few years. My current stick is completely useless.

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Very happy with my CH hardware. I think you have to go to a store and sort out what works best for you...

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Guest lulu47

In respons to post number 3, to recommand plastic products or flying a boeing with a joystick is ridiculous and unrealistic, plastic products = plastic performances, amateurism! You're missing the point!Here are good products: http://flypfc.com/?/products/yokes/Nile Daniel

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@NileActually the point is helping the op choose an affordable setup. $600+ isn't quite affordable for most people.

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Guest lulu47

The point is "Wich yoke for flying the NGX", so to give the best advice and of course, it is based on the budget of each of us. I also started a few years ago with a plastic yoke, no strength and poor performance. PFC yoke (and rudder) are totally in metal, very strong and offer outstanding performance very close to reality and this kind of product will have a long live duration which is not the case of plastic products. The best advice I can give for - those who can of course - is to save money for a few months and buy a solid and very realistic product that will give them great satisfaction to assumme their passion. Avoid if possible plastic product. Sorry for confusion.Nile Daniel

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