April 22, 201214 yr :Money Eyes: Guys- How about QuadSLI GTX 680s? - Sure to put you on the Power Company's XMas card list. http://www.youtube.c...bed/nSbDSwmvxjI After the divorce this is MINE! Rick Bertz
April 22, 201214 yr IMO Ivy Bridge seems a dissapointment from overclockers point of view. Tri-gate transistors seem to be leaking current a lot and are requiring voltage much more than expected. Original intended 77W TDP is now 95W in the box sticker. Overclocking wall comes in around 4,6GHz looking at all the results with air or water and that can't match 5GHz Sandy even if IB is faster clock-to-clock by few percents. So Sandy owners aren't in any hurry to switch their CPUs...
April 22, 201214 yr I ain't switching thats for sure; I will wait for the next architecture change...this is just a die shrunk. They may improve with fabrication process improvements over time, but have not read anything impressive when it comes to overclocking. This chip would be good in thin laptops who need integrated gpu's... Simon
April 22, 201214 yr I ain't switching thats for sure; I will wait for the next architecture change...this is just a die shrunk. They may improve with fabrication process improvements over time, but have not read anything impressive when it comes to overclocking. This chip would be good in thin laptops who need integrated gpu's... True. On-chip GPU performance increase is main thing with IB. For many desktop users it brings very little compared to SB.
April 22, 201214 yr Did I hear MSI GD65 and gtx 480s in SLI as the test platform? This will be of interest to me. LOL MSFS
April 22, 201214 yr IMO Ivy Bridge seems a dissapointment from overclockers point of view. Tri-gate transistors seem to be leaking current a lot and are requiring voltage much more than expected. Original intended 77W TDP is now 95W in the box sticker. Overclocking wall comes in around 4,6GHz looking at all the results with air or water and that can't match 5GHz Sandy even if IB is faster clock-to-clock by few percents. So Sandy owners aren't in any hurry to switch their CPUs... I watched an IV OC video on YouTube. They OC'd to 6.2GHz but it took liquid nitrogen cooling! :LMAO: Oh, and the case looked like a f---ing monster. If you but wheels on it you'd need an 18 wheeler to haul it. Guess I'll have to postpone that new Mercedes if I want one of these. On the other hand, ASUS is doing some neat stuff with their new Rampage Z77 MBs - completely shrouded, internal fans, plugin SSD and WiFi. Looks like SciFi to me. Test bench demo ASUS demo Rick Bertz
April 22, 201214 yr Author How about QuadSLI GTX 680s? - Sure to put you on the Power Company's XMas card list. Posted Image http://www.youtube.c...bed/nSbDSwmvxjI :o
April 22, 201214 yr I watched an IV OC video on YouTube. They OC'd to 6.2GHz but it took liquid nitrogen cooling! :LMAO: Oh, and the case looked like a f---ing monster. If you but wheels on it you'd need an 18 wheeler to haul it. Guess I'll have to postpone that new Mercedes if I want one of these. On the other hand, ASUS is doing some neat stuff with their new Rampage Z77 MBs - completely shrouded, internal fans, plugin SSD and WiFi. Looks like SciFi to me. Yes, you can overclock Ivy with liquid nitrogen to extremely high clocks, but unfortunately that doesn't seem to apply to regular air or watercooling. Due to current leaks in tri-gate transistors you have to rise voltage to the core steeply and soon you end up with extreme heat from the cores. Heat removal is also difficult for mainstream processors as core has small surface area.
April 22, 201214 yr I wish they would put out IB mother boards for 2011. This way, I get a Intel Core i7-3930K and be ready for the IB-E ...hopefully when the bugs/kinks are worked out. Manny Manny Beta tester for SIMStarter
April 22, 201214 yr So, I would guess we won't be seeing high IB clocks, certainly under current 4.8-5.0 SB clocks and virtually no improvement in FSX? Or is FSX going to benefit from tri-gate possibly? Not talking about PCIE3.
April 22, 201214 yr Commercial Member Don't overlook the architecture improvements. I've heard Ivy Bridge described as a tick+, meaning a little more than just a fabrication change. In particular, look at the hyperPi comparison here: http://www.tweaktown.com/articles/4621/intel_ivy_bridge_overclocking_with_the_core_i7_3770k_and_core_i5_3570k_cpus/index3.html [email protected]: 11:50 [email protected]: 9:48 IvyBridge is considerably ahead of Sandbridge despite being 400Mhz slower in the test. SuperPi tests are a pretty good reflection of CPU performance, so it would be interesting to see how this works out in FSX. Otherwise I'd agree the overclock leaves something to be desired, let's hope it improves with respins. Simon www.supertrafficboard.com
April 22, 201214 yr OK, Pi has always had impact on FSX, that I know. That result is something at least. But we are not going to be seeing anything drastical throughout this. Where you have 30fps, you are gonna have maybe 35 if you are lucky. Where you have 15, you are gonna have 18. But I am as sure as it is hoping for someone to post some results!
April 22, 201214 yr Don't overlook the architecture improvements. I've heard Ivy Bridge described as a tick+, meaning a little more than just a fabrication change. In particular, look at the hyperPi comparison here: http://www.tweaktown...pus/index3.html [email protected]: 11:50 [email protected]: 9:48 IvyBridge is considerably ahead of Sandbridge despite being 400Mhz slower in the test. SuperPi tests are a pretty good reflection of CPU performance, so it would be interesting to see how this works out in FSX. Otherwise I'd agree the overclock leaves something to be desired, let's hope it improves with respins. Simon Those results make no sense at all to me. How can a 4.6GHz 3570K score 8:11, beating the higher clocked 2600 & 3770K that also have HT? Ticks are just die shrinks / new manufacture process, and clock for clock IB is just about a 5% faster than SB.
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