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It's back to Sandy Bridge for Me - From 2600K to 2700K

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As one of the very first Sandy Bridge 2600K adopters, I have been more than happy that my gamble paid off big time. For FSX I ran the 2600K at 5.GHz for awhile but after upgrading my MB bios it would only reach 4.8GHz and remain stable with 1.45 v-core. I run other applications at 4.6 Ghz at 1.375 v-core.

 

After reading almost every early report of the Ivy Bridge extreme overclock heat issue, I decided that I will stay with Sandy Bridge, but upgrade the 2600K to a 2700K, which I just bought when at the Micro Center in Philly. Hopefully it will run at 5.0 GHz or so at 1.4 v-core or a bit less. If it does, I will be happy.

 

My 580 GTX is extremely good and fast which will render FSX cleanly at 900 Mhz yet still runs error free with only modest heat output. Everything else is top notch and as far as I am concerned, is as good as it gets for a cool, fast FSX machine. Hope to swap in the new CPU next week.

 

The 2600K will then be offered for sale. Any takers? :Nerd:

 

Kind regards,

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Ive been comtemplating doing a similar thing. I will be interested to see if it clocks any better than your 2600.

Regards

 

Howard

 

H D Isaacs

A 2600K, uh, sounds tempting! But I think I´ve now found me prefect settings and my 2500K @ 4,5 GHz is more than suffice for all my flights. I don´t have any sutters, so nothing to change right now.

Best regards, Steffen

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Fight time: NGX 737-700: 37,0h; -800: 47,2h

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After reading almost every early report of the Ivy Bridge extreme overclock heat issue, I decided that I will stay with Sandy Bridge, but upgrade the 2600K to a 2700K, which I just bought when at the Micro Center in Philly. Hopefully it will run at 5.0 GHz or so at 1.4 v-core or a bit less. If it does, I will be happy.

Give Intel some time for them to correct it, you never know!

Danny

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With the machine in my sig running at a fairly conservative 4.5 ghz I have a very fluid experience with no stutters.

 

Tonight I took the F1 Mustang out of Aerosoft LOWI down to Aerosoft LIPZ (Venice) without any issues at all, totally clear scenery rendering no hitching or blurries ect, FSX runs better than FS9 ever did once you are above 4ghz on SandyBridge.

 

So I am staying put, no more upgrades for me for a long while.

I have more Goflight modules than I can find functions for, so no more money to spend there, my C.Cards can have a rest.

We have finally arrived at hardware that can run the Sim well, time to just sit back and enjoy what we have.

Its taken years to get here.

Well, I will be buying my SB 2700K soon. I have been holding off waiting for IB, but the heat is just too much. Reading forward to 2013 architecture from Intel and seeing that their plan is to keep reducing power usage and cramp in better graphics is good for the general public but not for people like us. Sorry Stephen.

Vu Pham

i7-13700K 5.2 GHz OC, 64 GB RAM, RTX5090, SSD for Sim, SSD for system. MSFS2020, XP-12, DCS

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We have finally arrived at hardware that can run the Sim well, time to just sit back and enjoy what we have.

Reading forward to 2013 architecture from Intel and seeing that their plan is to keep reducing power usage and cramp in better graphics is good for the general public but not for people like us. Sorry Stephen.

 

I agree completely.

I aint gona fix whats not broke let alone fork out more denero! :Idea: Buying an OC'd used CPU is like buying a 2011 Car that's been raced every weekend at you local drag strip! It's life has been shortened.

ArDee

:Idea: Buying an OC'd used CPU is like buying a 2011 Car that's been raced every weekend at you local drag strip! It's life has been shortened.

 

Stephen, you could keep it for back up in the unlikely event your 2700K died. I doubt you'd get much for it for anyone who knew what it had been thru. What is the stock volt setting for the 2600K?

 

Does i7-3960X Extreme Edition Sandy Bridge-E bring anything over 2700K?

Noel

System:  9900X3D Noctua NH-D15 G2, MSI Pro 650-P WiFi, G.SKILL  64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000, WD NVMe 2Tb x 1, Sabrent NVMe 2Tb x 1, RTX 4090 FE, Corsair RM1000W PSU, Win11 Home, LG Ultra Curved Gsync Ultimate 3440x1440, Phanteks Enthoo Pro Case, TCA Boeing Edition Yoke & TQ, Cessna Trim Wheel, RTSS Framerate Limiter w/ Front Edge Sync.

Aircraft used in MSFS 2024:  Fenix A320,  Aerosoft CRJ, FBW, WT 787X, I-Fly 737 MAX 8, Citation Longitude.

 

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There is nothing wrong with my 2600K whatsoever, and as far as I can tell, it is as good as new. I am changing to the 2700K only because I want to maximize my Sandy Bridge platform instead of going to Ivy Bridge, as any performance gains offered by Ivy seems to not equal the penalties of the dramatic heat increases it comes with.

 

I had planned to switch to Ivy, but have now locked out that eventuality. For what we know so far, the Sandy Bridge 1155 socket set with any K series CPU still represents the best FSX performance choice. I chose the 2600K over the 2500K for the same reason I am now choosing the 2700K over the 2600K.

 

In addition, as widespread testing has shown, the Sandy Bridge E platform does not appear to bring anything new to the table for FSX, for other applications maybe, but not for what we use it for. The AMD equivalent does not even exist, so to me, making a decision early to re-invest in Sandy Bridge instead of Ivy is the wisest choice.

 

We will see what happens in the future, but I have just kicked the can down the road for another year or two.

 

Kind regards,

I was also planning to go with Ivy, but since I am not in a hurry I'll wait to find out whether Intel solves the heat issue or not. For all we know it might have been solved already. If not, than I hope that SB will still be available...

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In addition, as widespread testing has shown, the Sandy Bridge E platform does not appear to bring anything new to the table for FSX, for other applications maybe, but not for what we use it for. The AMD equivalent does not even exist, so to me, making a decision early to re-invest in Sandy Bridge instead of Ivy is the wisest choice.

 

We will see what happens in the future, but I have just kicked the can down the road for another year or two.

 

+1 rep. Excellent choice, welcome to the 2700K club! :Big Grin:

Ive been comtemplating doing a similar thing. I will be interested to see if it clocks any better than your 2600.

 

I would highly reccomend it, especially if you want cooler temperatures. My 2700K is rock solid 1.34volts @ 4.8GHZ.

 

I was also planning to go with Ivy, but since I am not in a hurry I'll wait to find out whether Intel solves the heat issue or not. For all we know it might have been solved already. If not, than I hope that SB will still be available...

 

I feel the same way. I had planned to upgrade to a 3570K later this summer but it seems I will be holding the cash back for something else.

There is nothing wrong with my 2600K whatsoever, and as far as I can tell, it is as good as new.

 

I don't know how you can say this w/ due respect Stephen. Maybe SB changed compared to C2D, but I remember clearly how people hosed their C2D quads, myself included, w/ sustained overvolting, even moderate overvolting. Indeed, from the data sheet:

 

 

"At conditions outside functional operation condition limits, but within absolute maximum and minimum ratings, neither functionality nor long-term reliability can be expected. If a device is returned to conditions within functional operation limits after having been subjected to conditions outside these limits, but within the absolute maximum and minimum ratings, the device may be functional, but with its lifetime degraded depending on exposure to conditions exceeding the functional operation condition limits.

 

At conditions exceeding absolute maximum and minimum ratings, neither functionality nor long-term reliability can be expected. Moreover, if a device is subjected to these conditions for any length of time then, when returned to conditions within the functional operating condition limits, it will either not function, or its reliability will be severely degraded."

 

I determined the limit on my processor for volts was 1.325. I ran it at 1.4125 and occasionally up to 1.45 to get an over clock of 4.2Ghz, and then only when flying. Had excellent thermal control too! It died anyway! I only will over volt to 1.35 now just because I don't want any more Q9650's!

 

OK, sounds like my next machine will be the 2700K, and perhaps a GTX580 is ample.

Noel

System:  9900X3D Noctua NH-D15 G2, MSI Pro 650-P WiFi, G.SKILL  64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000, WD NVMe 2Tb x 1, Sabrent NVMe 2Tb x 1, RTX 4090 FE, Corsair RM1000W PSU, Win11 Home, LG Ultra Curved Gsync Ultimate 3440x1440, Phanteks Enthoo Pro Case, TCA Boeing Edition Yoke & TQ, Cessna Trim Wheel, RTSS Framerate Limiter w/ Front Edge Sync.

Aircraft used in MSFS 2024:  Fenix A320,  Aerosoft CRJ, FBW, WT 787X, I-Fly 737 MAX 8, Citation Longitude.

 

 

OK, sounds like my next machine will be the 2700K, and perhaps a GTX580 is ample.

 

I'd definitely recommend it. They hardly require much voltage and the temps are great!

I'd definitely recommend it. They hardly require much voltage and the temps are great!

 

Well, sounds like that's the best we gonna get for FSX for the foreseeable. I'm just not sure what I can do w/ my current rig! It's a great box for what it is. Maybe craigslist . . .

Noel

System:  9900X3D Noctua NH-D15 G2, MSI Pro 650-P WiFi, G.SKILL  64GB (2 x 32GB) 288-Pin PC RAM DDR5 6000, WD NVMe 2Tb x 1, Sabrent NVMe 2Tb x 1, RTX 4090 FE, Corsair RM1000W PSU, Win11 Home, LG Ultra Curved Gsync Ultimate 3440x1440, Phanteks Enthoo Pro Case, TCA Boeing Edition Yoke & TQ, Cessna Trim Wheel, RTSS Framerate Limiter w/ Front Edge Sync.

Aircraft used in MSFS 2024:  Fenix A320,  Aerosoft CRJ, FBW, WT 787X, I-Fly 737 MAX 8, Citation Longitude.

 

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