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Can a flight be made between Alaska and the Hawaii...

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I mean, using any of the present airplanes?

 

If a Beaver, or a Twin Otter is added to Alaska, will it be possible?

 

and...btw, now that I have transposed the 500.000XP "barrier" thx to having started flying jobs, I wonder how you can keep your eyes open when flying those long range (200+ NM ) ones????

 

What's the secret? Cofee???? Lot's of cofee?

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Well, from Unalaska airport to Lihue is over 2,200 miles / 3,600 km. The Maule would have to refuel 3 times. I'll stick with the shorter hops myself. :smile:

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The P-51 could do it, just have to keep going back to the Hanger for "air to air refueling" and yes, lots of coffee! Hopfuly something faster will come along with Alaska. No big jets please.

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wonder how you can keep your eyes open when flying those long range (200+ NM ) ones

 

I have no problem flying a 200+nm job, although my preference is usually one around 90-120nm.

Once I get the Maule to cruise altitude and trimmed out, if I get bored I can leave the computer to do some other things in the meantime coming back occasionally to check my heading.

 

Now flying real time from Hawaii to Alaska though - I have not desire to do at all, in any plane.

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Mustang would have to glide the last 180 miles. Operational range was less than 1,500 miles with drop tanks, but absolute range was a bit more. And over that distance, it might be useful to have a B-17 or B-24 to follow - a plane with a navigator on it. ;-)

 

Beaver, DC-3 or Twotter won't make it either. DC-4 would - at 190mph.

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By comparison, it's only slightly less than the distance from New York to Los Angeles. Even in a jet fighter that would be a long haul.

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Slightly OT but I was watching a BBC documentary last night about Britain's Golden Age of flying, in the twenties and thirties. Fascinating archival footage of the big biplanes and the majestic flying boats carrying the super-rich of the day in luxury from London down to South Africa and later across to Australia.

 

Experiences that can never be repeated, with incredible low-level flying views, and a huge number of re-fuelling stops needed for journeys (adventures?) that might take over a week to complete...

 

The bit that caught my eye, though (in the context of Flight) was that these long-haul flights were all accomplished by manually flying each leg. No auto-pilot, very primitive navigation, and much of the journey with no ATC either... sounds familiar!

 

Cheers,

Nick

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I was really hoping that the old PanAm Clipper dock in Pearl Harbor's Middle Loch would be there in Flight, but it's not present.

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The Flight Maule claims a range of 700 nautical miles, but in practice in Flight you can get twice that much and probably more by leaning the engine and flying high. The Mustang may well be able to make it if the performance is similar.

 

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Once I get the Maule to cruise altitude and trimmed out, if I get bored I can leave the computer to do some other things in the meantime coming back occasionally to check my heading.

 

Which pretty much accounts for yet another aspect where FLIGHT's FM shines in comparison to others... pitch dynamic stability!!! :-)

 

Maybe when France or England get released on a LDC, certainly after East USA, we can replicate Lindbergh's adventure!!!! Whow!!! That would be quite a challenge, worse 50.000XPs!

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Yes, the Flight Maule can go well beyond 700nm under optimal conditions. When I flew to Johnston Atoll, I was just hoping to make it down there at all. I actually arrived with more than enough fuel to turn around and fly back to Hawaii if I had wanted. I think the Aleutians are still going to be 500 miles or more out of it's range, but the P-51 should be able to do it running auto-mixture at high altitude.

 

Have fun doing that, though.

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...I flew to Johnston Atoll...

That sounds like it should be printed on a T shirt :)

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Its an interesting question. My first response would be "Why not? If you are into that." But responses (well...... response) from MS indicate that they feel it is not a popular option, and they seemed to have little interest in implementing it.

 

My take is that if the game truly is a round earth, then adding Alaska in would automatically make it available from all other current and future dlc, provided a plane that could cover the distance was available. Unless something has been "broken" or MS decides for some unfathomable reason to explicitly disallow it.

 

I guess we can only wait and see, since it seems clear MS is not likely to answer the question beforehand.

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Now flying real time from Hawaii to Alaska though - I have not desire to do at all, in any plane

 

If they threw in a bunch of tsunami flotsam and pods of whales it would at least make the long haul over water a bit more interesting.

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Is the Johnston Atoll in MS Flight? I found a small island south of Niihau that wasn't on the map, I was wondering if there were any more islands out there that aren't listed on the map

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Am i the only one who thinks they pulled the plug on Alaska, i remember a long time ago they said spring. Not one word mentioned about it since then, very weird.

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Like the old software development adage:

 

Designing the first 90% of the program takes 90% of the time. Developing the last 10% takes the other 90% of the time.

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Am i the only one who thinks they pulled the plug on Alaska, i remember a long time ago they said spring. Not one word mentioned about it since then, very weird.

 

 

It is still Spring in the northern hemisphere. :)

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Well, in that case they must have scrapped whatever they demoed at PAX East, which is less than two months ago.

 

https://news.microso...-at-alaska.aspx

 

There's some tiny bit of footage from that event on Youtube. First some guy talks, then at 60 seconds we see him fly over Alaskan scenery for about half a minute. Some commenter says it's a Cessna, but to me it looks like the Maule?

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v-6HyHLQIn8

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Well in the JH interview, he stated I believe they " hope' to be able to release DLC scenery every 3 months or so.

Not a definitive, yes every 90 days there will be a scenery release.

I am sure they already had it in the pipeline being worked on probably well before the initial release of Flight.

 

Flight came out on Feb 28th.

Around end of March we had a dlc plane.

Around end of May we are having a dlc plane.

 

It has been said, this will be the last of the warbird series for Hawaii.

 

I would guess, we "may" see the Alaska DLC , and hopefully a new plane or two with cockpits, around end of June or so.

All just guesswork on my part or course.

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In the interview with Tom he talked about 3-4 packages per year, which also buys them another month. :-)

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<<Can a flight be made between Alaska and the Hawaii...>>

 

jcomm,

 

I wonder if it would be possible to go from Hawaii to Alaska by glider? I remember watching a documentary on gliders not that long ago and was absolutely shocked by how far they can go with a skilled operator especially with one of the newer gliders that have impressive glide ratios! I doubt it could be done for very long over the ocean as I would think it would be difficult finding good thermals over the ocean to keep going...

 

Since you're the glider expert, do you know if gliders have ever attempted relatively long distance over-water flight?

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