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Some info from Mathijs Kok on flights demise.

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I am surprised than no one has commented on Mathijs Kok's interview on the Avsim Front page.

Looks like the third party devs were close to being invited back in.

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Yes, I just read it. To bad, another great oppertunity lost. Well, I for one will be here untill they turn off the lights. Still much to do in both Hawaii and Alaska for some time to come. We still have some hope that something more will come of this.

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Well, I for one will be here untill they turn off the lights. Still much to do in both Hawaii and Alaska for some time to come.

 

As will I.

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Sums it up quite well from a very knowledgeable person.

 

Not really, it is easy to say now that it has ended, "oh I knew when it was released it was not going to make it"...

It's neither here nor there now , it is what it is I guess.

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"brain dead simulator"

 

Sums it up quite well from a very knowledgeable person.

Do we have to go there again, really? If you don't want to give it the dignity even when it's down and out, please gloat in private so the rest of us can enjoy the forums please.

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"brain dead simulator"

 

Sums it up quite well from a very knowledgeable person.

I doubt this very knowledeable person spent much time with it, if any.Did you?

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I doubt this very knowledeable person spent much time with it, if any.Did you?

 

Because there was no depth, I spent two entire nights on it. One can't argue that there isn't much to Flight. Enjoy it or not, it's a simple game.

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One can't argue that there isn't much to Flight. Enjoy it or not, it's a simple game.

 

Excuse me, but yes one can. There is a great deal to Flight, for those that actually took the time to try it and learn what all it does have to offer.

I, and many others, would be greatly offended by that statement.

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Excuse me, but yes one can. There is a great deal to Flight, for those that actually took the time to try it and learn what all it does have to offer.

I, and many others, would be greatly offended by that statement.

 

I wasn't trying to offend. Hawaii, Alaska, and several weather themes with "aerocaches" and some missions didn't interest me. I did try and I did learn what it has to offer. That I admit the game seems superficial is no attack on you and yours. "Relax"! :blink:

 

Also, try not to take great offense when discussing games.

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I did try and I did learn what it has to offer.

 

Obviously you did not. 2 nights? Not hardly.

Why do you feel the need to come here and pound your chest I wonder?

Isn't there anyother forum that would suit you better for whatever " gaming" you do?

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This original AVSIM Interview was when I was convinced what I needed to do and which sim was for me.

 

 

http://forum.avsim.net/index.php?app=ccs&module=pages&section=pages&folder=/AVSIM%20Pages&id=8

 

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"JH: Trying something new is hard, and we never thought that absolutely everyone would appreciate what we were doing. Some reviewers have better understood our goals, while some were merely angry that we dared to build something that wasn’t exactly what they decided we should build. Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but our business is not about trying to please that kind of person. As to where we are taking Flight, the answer is that I can’t give you an endpoint, but I can tell you we are committed to the journey. I believe that Flight can appeal to millions and millions of people, far more than the simulation sub-genre ever garnered, and our journey will be continuing to explore ways to bring the magic of flight to a massive audience. But simulation is a critical aspect of what we are trying to do – no arcade game can capture the majesty of flying the way a sophisticated simulation can. On our journey I expect the depth and breadth of our simulation to grow, as well for the product to get deeper in many other ways as well. Unlike a retail product, with our living product, our fans can join us on this journey, and we can make progress on the journey measured in weeks, not years.

 

 

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Not really, it is easy to say now that it has ended, "oh I knew when it was released it was not going to make it"...

It's neither here nor there now , it is what it is I guess.

 

Actually they did say Flight was a failure from the start (go back and read past threads from Aerosoft). Many of us hated the concept and predicted it wouldn't make it. Low and behold there was a serious effort to make a real sim behind the scenes. The developers gave us a really nice environment to fly in. Too bad the so called head of the team didn't know his you know what from a hole in the ground because Flight could have really been something...

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Obviously you did not. 2 nights? Not hardly.

Why do you feel the need to come here and pound your chest I wonder?

Isn't there anyother forum that would suit you better for whatever " gaming" you do?

 

Err. I'm not welcome here because I don't enjoy Flight? Chest pounding? Huh? Are you okay?

 

How ya' been, Dillon? I think allowing 3rd party developers in would have gone a long way. That is the bread and butter of the franchise!

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How ya' been, Dillon? I think allowing 3rd party developers in would have gone a long way. That is the bread and butter of the franchise!

 

The question though, which isn't clear in the interview, were they discussing opening up Flight to the 3rd party devs or just asking about Aerosoft producing content for them. From the way the statement reads to me, it sounded more like the latter. (Which isn't too bad in itself!)

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Hi,

Maybe I'm just confused but I was under the impression that this was about "info from Mathijs Kok on Flight's demise"This seems to have degenerated into a slanging match between the For and Against Flight brigade.Pity,'cause I really was interested in reading what Mathijs had to say as I missed the original interview.

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Err. I'm not welcome here because I don't enjoy Flight? Chest pounding? Huh? Are you okay?

 

I think the 'tried it 2 days' thing is whatis troubling, when you lament it's alleged lack of depth...

 

Did you download the Hawaii Adventure Pack? Try the RV6? Check out the incredible scenery on Kaui, or the sights around Pearl Harbor? Do any of the Biplane missions?

 

If you're going to be critical of Flight, please, at least say what you tried, and what you didn't like about it.

 

Thanks!

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I think the 'tried it 2 days' thing is whatis troubling, when you lament it's alleged lack of depth...

 

Did you download the Hawaii Adventure Pack? Try the RV6? Check out the incredible scenery on Kaui, or the sights around Pearl Harbor? Do any of the Biplane missions?

 

If you're going to be critical of Flight, please, at least say what you tried, and what you didn't like about it.

 

Thanks!

I did purchase the Hawaii Adventure pack. The RV was fun for a few hours, but after completing all of the landing challenges and the Mission where the woman was taking photos of the comet, I was out of stuff to do. So again, my problem with Flight is it's lack of depth. It's that simple. The same way vanilla FSX doesn't do it for me!

 

I don't get why I can't just not like it. :P

Fixed.

You're quite good with words, Devon. May I keep you on retainer so the crazies more passionate gamers don't jump me? :lol:

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How ya' been, Dillon? I think allowing 3rd party developers in would have gone a long way. That is the bread and butter of the franchise!

 

Been great Zach although the hobby has lost a little bit of it's luster with the canceling of Flight. I was looking forward to an evolution to a true sim which over time couldn't be denied. No matter what the bewildered leader was trying to pull the team was slowly behind the scenes giving us a great flying environment. In a year Alaska most likely would have been similar to what we have today with Orbix and FSCargo. Who's to say what aircraft options we would have had and Flight could have evolved into FS11 as that's the only way it would have succeeded in the end. It was canceled way too soon. My read is the developers needed help and were steering the development toward groups like Aerosoft. I don't care what anyone says Flight's graphics engine and FDE modeling is the best I've seen and the best this community has had the pleasure to experience. It's a shame it was shut down but I'll still fly the sim until the lights get turned off at Redmond...

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Hello

I am surprised than no one has commented on Mathijs Kok's interview on the Avsim Front page.

Looks like the third party devs were close to being invited back in.

 

Can't find it, can somebody post a link to it, thank you.

 

Never mind, I got it...

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I did purchase the Hawaii Adventure pack. The RV was fun for a few hours, but after completing all of the landing challenges and the Mission where the woman was taking photos of the comet, I was out of stuff to do. So again, my problem with Flight is it's lack of depth. It's that simple. The same way vanilla FSX doesn't do it for me!

 

I don't get why I can't just not like it. :P

 

Thanks, again, Zach.

 

You can definitely not like it (as if you needed MY permission...lol), I was just curious as to what you had tried, and what didn't appeal to you, which you were kind enough to address for me. :good:

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Can't find it, can somebody post a link to it, thank you.

 

Just click on Avsim at top of page (to the left of forums)

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I notice some possible logical contradictions with the current ongoing mythology creation about flight. Basically, I find it less likely than ever (though not impossible) that a project for a "market that didn't exist" was in the process of attempting a deal for new content just two weeks before getting abruptly yanked......

 

Sounds like a project that believed it had a future.

 

Should the real story ever come out, I suspect it will be a tragedy to make the Greeks weep.

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Flight's graphics engine and FDE modeling is the best I've seen and the best this community has had the pleasure to experience

 

A truer statement has never been said or rather typed. Everytime I fly the RV6 in Flight and come back to FSX, I feel disappointed. Flight had the potential to appeal to both console gamers and hard core simmers alike and Microsoft raped the pooch when they terminated development.

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