Just to inform you- the new beta is here.

 

http://wiki.x-plane....ne_10.10_Beta_9

Only a few things I'm noticing so far:

 

1. The default Cessna 172 Virtual Cockpit is looking much crisper.

2. Axis assignments on the joystick page are no longer grouped for each device in each corner of the screen, but piled high in one group, like previous x-plane versions. I preffered the earlier arrangement in the 10.10 beta series - it looked tidier.

3. There's now a real weather option to tick in the quick start menu.

4. HDR is still very bright on sunny days compared to non HDR

5. We still have turbulence with real weather downloads, reporting variable wind direction.

 

I suppose bug fixes are observed by what you don't notice more than what you do notice.

Hello Folks!

 

I installed b9 and so far so good. I don't understand what all the "fuzz" is about the turbulence in variable winds or inside clouds. Guess what everyone..............whenever you enter a cloud regardless of how benign it is or it appears to be, there is some shaking to reckon with. Whenever there are variable winds at the level you're flying, there will be turbulence - slight or moderate, but there will be some. Whenever you fly through clouds, there will be turbulence. So far I have not noticed turbulence that would be considered out of the ordinary on XPX. Maybe I'm missing something - I don't know, but I fly X-Plane almost daily and I can't say that turbulence has been an issue to report - it all appears pretty darn normal.

 

Cheers.

 

Dennis

I'm getting really good frame rates with this update ! 25+

 

My setting are-

HDR

FXAA

2560x1600

Trees filled in

# Objects-extreme

# Roads-extreme

# Cars-chicago

World distance-high

Airport detail-extreme

Shadow-overlay

Water reflection-complete

Clouds-40%

Hi Dennis,

 

If you don't use real weather downloads then you won't see the turbulence issues. They are very real issues, its not in peoples imaginations, it is the main reason I don't fly XPX very much. Sometimes it is so bad it's like flying near a tornado, even when weather conditions are fine and there isn't a cloud in the sky. Clouds and proximity to them have zero correlation with the turbulence issues may are unhappy with, like I said even with zero clouds it can still occur. I must admit that I haven't got around to testing b9 yet as I have been to busy installing P3D over the last few days, I'm hoping to get time to give it a blast over the weekend.

Whenever there are variable winds at the level you're flying, there will be turbulence - slight or moderate, but there will be some.

 

A 5 knot wind coming from a variable direction and x-plane decides to throw in enough turbulence to see you constantly fight the yoke to keep the wings level.

 

In reality a 5 knot wind coming from a variable direction won't have any turbulence associated with it. And the direction changes will take a little time to establish - a lot less abrupt than what x-plane simulates.

indeed, the turbulence issue is still there. i fly the c152 in xpx and in RL...

A 5kt xwind that isn't consistent in XP will have your wings going to at least 30 degrees bank back and forth consistently with a good amount of yaw included as the wind interacts with the rudder/vert stab causing extreme weathervaning. A headwind variable strength will cause pitch oscillations. Combine the two with a xwind from the 45degrees off forward and side axes (10 o'clock, 2 o'clock, 4 o'clock and 7 o'clock) and you can get a really crazy combination of the two. Now add in the turbulence due to up/down drafts in the cloud itself added by the weather engine and add that to the already craziness of the wind effects and you'll quickly have an unrealistically uncontrollable mess that would turn anyone away from ever flying again if it happened in real life. 10 knots of any variable wind make me cringe at the thought as 5 knots is enough to make me go "yeah, right...sure...end program"

Very interesting guys.

 

I always fly with real-weather and have never experienced what you guys describe. If things are indeed the way you describe then I think there's definitely an issue - it's just weird that flying XPX daily I have never experienced other than normal weather. At which altitudes is this typically occurring? Maybe I'm staying too low (below 4K ft) to really experience it. I beg to disagree with the previous poster - a 5kt variable may not always have turbulence associated with it - I give you that much, but in my 23 years behind the wheel I can tell you that 80% there will be a noticeable shaking - ever so slight - but there is some.

 

Cheers folks!

 

Still testing B9.

 

Dennis

I always fly with real-weather and have never experienced what you guys describe.

 

I'm guessing there's going to be variations in how METARs are reported from one region to the next. Certainly in the parts of europe that I fly in, it's quite common to have variable wind directions reported in the METAR when winds are slack and not coming from any particular direction. Whether that's the case in America, I'm not sure. But it could explain why you haven't seen so much turbulence if you fly where I don't

 

Has anyone noticed the autopilot altitude hold being stuck on? I've tried a couple of aircraft (Cessna 172 and Carenado Bonanza V35), and once selected it's impossible to remove altitude hold.

I think they fixed this in B9 -- see the thread below about turbulence.

 

And yes there can be bumpiness in a small plane going through most clouds but people are talking about pre-B9, XP didn't seem to often differentiate between "mean crazy thunderstorm cloud" and "calm friendly foggy clouds." My example was flying into the marine layer in San Diego (advective fog) which, by definition, is not anything to be wary of beyond just being IFR, in XP a small plane would be thrown around like crazy with the ASI going haywire between 0kts and 150kts every second and taking all my control to keep a basic attitude. I've also flown into other clouds that should be bumpy but in XP they caused my Archer II to flip over and fall out of the sky.

 

But anyway my first flight in B9 through the marine layer shows this may be fixed so it might be a moot issue from now on :)

But anyway my first flight in B9 through the marine layer shows this may be fixed so it might be a moot issue from now on :)

 

That's good new Timmer ! I'm looking fwd to be able to test b9 myself...

I had a very nice flight with 10.10 Beta 9. B) I think shadows are better although I'm disabling HDR.

My F33 is back to flying great but most importantly-don't seem to need extreme aileron trim to fly in level flight! Yes!

After saving my working standard version again to an external hard drive, I tried, once again, updating to the beta 10.10 b9. Looks great and flies great. Looking forward to flying the Baron more today! It is much improved over the original.

 

Last time I tried, for some reason, the scenery didn't take and all I had were runways and water. Spent an entire day messing with it. Very frustrating.

 

This time it's great!