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Windows 8 - Joystick Megathread problem.

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The key to fix this problem is turning UAC off completely using regedit. When you do that, the USB power off settings in control panel actually do work and joystick works.

Mehmet Yatan

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  • himynameistrev
    himynameistrev

    I can't believe this thread is still going at this rate.   Register your controls with FSUIPC, Disable your joystick in FSX menu = 100% reliable joystick availability. 

  • mbucholski
    mbucholski

    Well, in my case fsuipc doesn't even recognise joystick inputs in Windows 8.   Wysłane z mojego GT-I9100

  • I found that if I stick a banana in my ear and snort Pepsi through a pink straw I do not notice many drop outs.

EDIT : I spoke too soon. While it took a lot longer than it did before, it still happened.

Mehmet Yatan

Try unistalling the driver and then install again.

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Lionel

 

I have already tried that millions of times, this has nothing to do with the driver. Its completely operating system related at the USB level. Interesting question is, there are many USB devices that is used in FSX, TrackIR, keyboard, mouse, how come none of those disconnect?

Mehmet Yatan

I've tried the whole USB power thing to no avail. This seems to be a fairly recent thing with windows 7. There must have bee some kind of update that is causing this. I.e. microsoft saying,"boy we've really improved the joystick interface with windows 8, let's fix Windows 7." My problem is that I've done a fresh install of Windows 7 so all of my updates were done at the same time. I can't tell which are the ones that occurred in October. It would be interesting to uninstall all of the updates from that time period to see what happens.

Steve Giblin

 

I saw on a gaming forum that some people are having luck fixing this problem by placing a copy of the Win7 version of DINPUT8.DLL (found in the WIndows\system32 directory) in the program (in this case FSX) folder. I do NOT recommend you replace the Win8 version located in Windows\system32 and/or WIndows\sysWOW64 with the older version.

 

I don't have (and don't plan on EVER having) Win8, so I can't test it here. But here's to hoping it works... :drinks:

 

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I saw on a gaming forum that some people are having luck solving the disconnecting joystick issue by placing a copy of the Win7 version of DINPUT8.DLL in their program (i.e. FSX) directory. I posted on this in a bit more detail in the Win8 joystick megathread.

Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc
ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V

Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE
Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro
Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case

Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090
Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz,
3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU
Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro
PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box

Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090
Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus,
TM TCA Officer Pack
, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case

Which mega thread?

 

I am going to try direct input binaries.

Mehmet Yatan

Which mega thread?

 

This one: http://forum.avsim.n...thread-problem/

 

 

 

This thread has now been merged with the "Mega thread" thread.... PJ

 

:wink:

Bob Scott | President and CEO, AVSIM Inc
ATP Gulfstream II-III-IV-V

Sys1 (MSFS20+24/XPlane12+11): AMD 9800X3D, water 2x240mm, MSI MPG X670E Carbon, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, nVidia RTX4090FE
Alienware AW3821DW 38" 21:9 GSync, 2x4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2x2TB Samsung 990 SSD, EVGA 1000P2 PSU, 12.9" iPad Pro
Thrustmaster TCA Boeing Yoke, TCA Airbus Sidestick, Twin TCA Airbus Throttle quads, PFC Cirrus Pedals, Coolermaster HAF932 case

Sys2 (P3Dv5/v4): i9-13900KS, water 2x360mm, ASUS Z790 Hero, 32GB GSkill 7800MHz CAS36, ASUS RTX4090
Samsung 55" JS8500 4K TV@60Hz,
3x 2TB WD SN850X 1x 4TB Crucial P3 M.2 NVME SSD, EVGA 1600T2 PSU
Fiber link to Yamaha RX-V467 Home Theater Receiver, Polk/Klipsch 6" bookshelf speakers, Polk 12" subwoofer, 12.9" iPad Pro
PFC yoke/throttle quad/pedals with custom Hall sensor retrofit, Thermaltake View 71 case, Stream Deck XL button box

Sys3 (DCS/P3Dv4/ATS/ETS): AMD 7800X3D, MSI MPG X870E Carbon, Noctua NH-D15S, 64GB GSkill 6000/30, EVGA RTX3090
Alienware AW3420DW 34" 21:9 GSync, Corsair HX1000i PSU, 4TB Crucial T705 PCIe5 + 2TB Samsung 970Evo Plus,
TM TCA Officer Pack
, Saitek combat pedals, TM Warthog, TM RS300 FF wheel/pedals, Coolermaster HAF XB case

That sounds about right.

I can try on my other machine with an add-on

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I tried the dll, it didnt do anything.

Mehmet Yatan

The direct input dll did not help.

Mehmet Yatan

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Could be related to Directx 9. I'm using mostly DX10 preview mode these days with good luck. Well report any issues. Also, EZCA seems to have fits with WIN 8 (application errors logged frequently) and could be a related problem. Cheers jja

It has nothing to do with DirectX version, both 9 and 10 produce the same error.

Mehmet Yatan

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When I first went to Windows 8, I was on an Intel core 2 duo/Nvidia graphics setup. I ran it for a few months without ZERO problems with the joystick.

 

I built my new rig which is an AMD CPU/ AMD Graphics, and it went smooth for a few weeks then SUDDENLY it started getting disconnects every flight. Particularly on approach right before landing. I was using EZCA utility the whole time on my AMD rig.

 

Hopefully this can narrow it down some.

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