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Cost Index

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Hi all,

 

Looking for any real world NG pilots or people in the know!

 

What are certain airlines cost index entries?

 

Thanks

Greg Marshall

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Welcome to AVSIM!

 

I believe the cost index used often depends on the specific circumstances of a flight, but there is this thread. I have not confirmed its accuracy.

Jet A costs are pretty high these days. So CI's will be low. I see most US airlines using 35 and under. It all depends on the trip and fuel purchasing armaments they have.

Safe & smooth flying,

Clarke Ramsey

BA use 28 for SH quite alot and they can use 0 for Atlantic crossings but depends on many factors, type of trip, cost of fuel, wind conditions etc

Elliot Westacott

 

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Air Berlin use 15 for their Boeing fleet.

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Just remember some airlines have fixed cost indexes and some don't. Off the top of my head Air Canada and Alaska Airlines get their cost index from dispatch and it depends on a few factors.

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Thanks for the replys guys, been a great help! :)

Greg Marshall

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Can someone explain why CI is so important to know? Ballpark isn't enough?

Matt Cee

It changes how fast the plane will complete the trip but also how much fuel will be used so I presume airlines are using lower and lower index ratings to save money in fuel. If a plane is running late it can increase the index rating to arrive more on time. (With the side effect of using more fuel)

C Parker

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Can someone explain why CI is so important to know? Ballpark isn't enough?

 

Same reason some simmers want their 737s to have the same seat count / empty weight as the one the airline they're flying has, probably.

Kyle Rodgers

A usual number at my outfit is 12-15 for the 737. Although, depending on the circumstances, it can change quite drastically.

It's always printed at the bottom of the flight plan here.

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http://forum.avsim.net/topic/401146-cost-index-explained/

 

Cost index is explained pretty good here by Boeing. Shows lots of different uses for various CI for different aircraft.

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http://forum.avsim.net/topic/401146-cost-index-explained/

 

Cost index is explained pretty good here by Boeing. Shows lots of different uses for various CI for different aircraft.

 

 

It changes how fast the plane will complete the trip but also how much fuel will be used so I presume airlines are using lower and lower index ratings to save money in fuel. If a plane is running late it can increase the index rating to arrive more on time. (With the side effect of using more fuel)

 

That's the what is CI? not the why is SO important to some?

 

It's up there with knowing the winds aloft for a certain flight on a certain date. It changes. You'll get there a little faster or slower.

Matt Cee

 

That's the what is CI? not the why is SO important to some?

Immersion.

 

It is the same reason that the 737NGX has replaced the PMDG's 737 on FS9 and the same reason people bought the FS9 version when there was a perfectly good 737 supplied free.

 

For some simmers, some of the time, the closer you can get to doing exactly what your real world counterpart would do, and the closer the results of your actions match the results the real world pilot would expect in the same circumstances, then the closer what you are doing is to reality and the more satisfying it becomes.

Paul Smith.

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Immersion.

 

It is the same reason that the 737NGX has replaced the PMDG's 737 on FS9 and the same reason people bought the FS9 version when there was a perfectly good 737 supplied free.

 

For some simmers, some of the time, the closer you can get to doing exactly what your real world counterpart would do, and the closer the results of your actions match the results the real world pilot would expect in the same circumstances, then the closer what you are doing is to reality and the more satisfying it becomes.

 

I agree with this, for most simmers out there you want to fly the aircraft as it would be flown in real life!

Greg Marshall

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