So if we already bought the 1.4 license is it just a matter of telling it where the 2.0 directory is or is there another small license fee?

 

Thanks

 

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Just point it to the new location of your prepar3D installation.

You did what?!?!?

 

Ok...now this post, I sat up and took notice....you fully deleted it?!?!?

 

It's not that radical Mitch   :wink:

 

If I don't have working clickspots / mouse cursor in Full Screen Mode soon, I'll be deleting it too......  (only until it's fixed though :wink:).

 

Also the Black Screen stuff and needing to toggle between window and full screen mode is a big pain.     I personally think P3D 2.0 has amazing potential, but at this point, has some pretty fundamental bugs.

Mike, any issues with volumetric fog if using third party textures?

 

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I see Zeke is among us  :smile2: 

 nice to see

It's not that radical Mitch   :wink:

 

If I don't have working clickspots / mouse cursor in Full Screen Mode soon, I'll be deleting it too......  (only until it's fixed though :wink:).

 

Also the Black Screen stuff and needing to toggle between window and full screen mode is a big pain.     I personally think P3D 2.0 has amazing potential, but at this point, has some pretty fundamental bugs.

...."Q, so this black screen is an isolated ATI card problem, or to both major players, and how do you like the platform with your use-to-date?  Do you personally recommend one download and fly it, if the user already has great performance from his/her FSX install?"

...."Q, so this black screen is an isolated ATI card problem, or to both major players, and how do you like the platform with your use-to-date?  Do you personally recommend one download and fly it, if the user already has great performance from his/her FSX install?"

 

Hi Mitch, as far as I can tell, both ATI and nVidia users have seen the Black Screen problem, although I'm not sure if everyone is seeing it.   It does seem a very common issue though and LM have already responded to say they are aware of it and investigating.   

 

I can see potential in the platform Mitch, but I couldn't begin to recommend it to anyone at this point, due to the fundamental bugs I am seeing;    for example, in Full Screen mode, no mouse clicks at all are working! (and the mouse cursor flashes; something strange is going on).

 

I have no doubt we'll all be flying P3D 2.4 in the future, but at the current release v2.0, it's just not usable for me.

All these comments and impressions have little meaning to me, 30 fps with a general aviation airplane can be obtained easily in FSX... The point will be when a complex aircraft such as the PMDG 737 or 777 comes out. How will the fps be?

 

I think there is hope they may do quite well.  I say this on the basis of how much 'work' is being done now by the GPU and this leaves hopefully a little more that the CPU can do.   I'm sure as w/ default planes one will have to dial back graphics settings some in order to cope w/ the demands of the more complex aircraft but all else being equal I would have to guess they should do quite well.  We'll see in due time ;o)

I had it yesterday,Nvidia GTX580

 

 

Hi Mitch, as far as I can tell, both ATI and nVidia users have seen the Black Screen problem, although I'm not sure if everyone is seeing it.   It does seem a very common issue though and LM have already responded to say they are aware of it and investigating.   
 
I can see potential in the platform Mitch, but I couldn't begin to recommend it to anyone at this point, due to the fundamental bugs I am seeing;    for example, in Full Screen mode, no mouse clicks at all are working! (and the mouse cursor flashes; something strange is going on).

 

Wow I didn't know about the clickspots issue--is that uniform among all users?  I just installed yesterday and just played in slew mode to dial in settings.  I use Full Screen mode and see no flashing mouse pointers.  

 

The black screen issue:  they mention in the documentation there will be a lag when you change HDR setting, and so only when I've made certain changes there will I see a one-time black screen.  But when I retain those settings and restart the sim there is no black screen.

That is just normal, what you're describing Noel; as you said, it's what is supposed to happen when changing display settings in the sim.          It's very different for those of us with the black screen bug;      if I set P3D 2.0 to "full screen", then exit, then when I restart it, it will simply not generate any display.   I will hear the aircraft engine, but there are no visuals whatsoever;  just the black screen.   The only way out of that state is closing P3D 2.0, and in fact on one occasion, my cursor and whole PC froze during a "black screen wobbler" and I had to do a hard reboot (holding the power button of my PC!).... that was the only way out of the Black Screen badness.......

Hi Julio,

 

FSUIPC works, but you need a copy of your old FSUIPC.INI file to be place in the modules folder. The interface is blank from within P3D 2.0, but the ini file once copied into the modules folder works as a work-around until Pete can fix the issue.

 

So, run the latest FSUIPC so the files are installed into P3D 2.0, then copy your old fsuipc.ini into the modules directory and your all set. One more thing, make sure you delete any of the same commands from within P3D.

 

 

 

My first day too...
P3DV2 + FTXG
Great!

Did Fsuipc work for you?

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Hi,

 

You are missing the point, the graphics in 2.0 look far superior to FSX as well as P3D 1.4. My settings are just about MAXED OUT, I can't do that with FSX. My sim experience is smooth with much higher settings, something I could NEVER DO in FSX.

 

 

All these comments and impressions have little meaning to me, 30 fps with a general aviation airplane can be obtained easily in FSX... The point will be when a complex aircraft such as the PMDG 737 or 777 comes out. How will the fps be?

Hi,

 

Been on this thing for about 20 hours, I have had ZERO ISSUES with click spots and/or a flashing mouse. I do have the black screen issue, but an easy work around exists.

 

This program is far superior to FSX and is even much better than 1.4 right out of the box. For the first time in my simming history, one that dates back to Bruce Artwick and Microsoft Flight Simulator for the Tandy 1000 computer... I'm talking 1980's folks, wow I'm getting old :lol: I am now utilizing most of my state of the art hardware. Once SLI is added, its going to get even better.

 

 

 

Wow I didn't know about the clickspots issue--is that uniform among all users?  I just installed yesterday and just played in slew mode to dial in settings.  I use Full Screen mode and see no flashing mouse pointers.  

 

The black screen issue:  they mention in the documentation there will be a lag when you change HDR setting, and so only when I've made certain changes there will I see a one-time black screen.  But when I retain those settings and restart the sim there is no black screen.

I have had an issue that I would think would make click spots a problem.  The mouse doesn't appear to click on menu options and you have to move the mouse somewhere else on the screen to get the right option.

 

    I think this was brought about from resizing the screen.   I did not have this issue when going from window to fullscreen as long as my window full size before hand.

If I don't have working clickspots / mouse cursor in Full Screen Mode soon, I'll be deleting it too......  (only until it's fixed though :wink:).

 

No point in deleting it because you won't have to redownload the entire application again when a patch is released. Unless you're deleting it out of rage.

I honestly don't understand the impatience some are evidencing. For the first time in history, we have a team of folks at L-M who're actively involved in the process, and will be issuing dot releases as quickly as reported problems are fixed...

 

...unlike MS products that're released and then quickly abandoned for the next project. :unsure:

No point in deleting it because you won't have to redownload the entire application again when a patch is released. Unless you're deleting it out of rage.

 

rage lol! ...... It was more of a rhetorical uninstallation :wink: .... now that I have a workaround for the cursor / clickspot issue, I am reasonably happy with P3D 2.0 as it is, although I look forward to other bugs like the black screen issue getting fixed.

 

I honestly don't understand the impatience some are evidencing. For the first time in history, we have a team of folks at L-M who're actively involved in the process, and will be issuing dot releases as quickly as reported problems are fixed...

 

...unlike MS products that're released and then quickly abandoned for the next project. :unsure:

 

I agree in part Bill...  however there is a big distinction between small bugs, (where we should all be more patient), and major show stopping issues like the cursor not working on any controls or clickspots.     I think the latter (which deems the sim redundant at that point) is a fair reason for some impatience.

 

Now, thankfully the community have just discovered a workaround for that bug too, so yes, for most people as it stands the sim is usable and we should be more patient about the small stuff.

 

But you know in any instance like this, it does tend to be the people with few issues, who are telling those with all the problems to 'be more patient'.   :smile: