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Absolutly voluptuous !!!

 

I think my F1 Cessna Mustang will have to rest for a while...

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As usual it looks great but I'm all tuckered out with Carenado products..  They all look different on the inside but on an operational level all feel exactly the same.  I dig the products I have from there especially the Stolle FDE'ed  ones but there isn't a large gap op's wise between them all and after a while you just feel like you're buying a new tablecloth..  

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but I'm all tuckered out with Carenado products

 

Me too, but I fear I may be sucked in by the good looks and the fact that I really want a nice small jet for FSX - for my non NGX moments you understand :P

I am even drawn to the 1900D they are working on as well, but having the Q400 will probably fend that one off (even though I love the liveries it comes with)

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I'll be buying. I can't pass up a nice looking bizjet - even if it's slow! This thing goes a little faster than the F1 Mustang at altitude.

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I'll be buying if they release RW Nav data and properly model the G1000 in them.

 

Great models but I just feel they skimp on the systems detail.

 

Sean

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I doubt they'll do that. It's a ton of work to implement navigraph data in a G1000 (just ask Flight1 hehe).

 

I plan on half-arsing it with my RXP 530W popup for accurate and RW navigation.

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I'll be buying if they release RW Nav data and properly model the G1000 in them.

 

Great models but I just feel they skimp on the systems detail.

 

Sean

People having been saying similar for ages.. Carenado is all about wrapping 4096 textures around default functionality

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I'll take anything that looks nice if it's a bizjet. There just aren't many out there to begin with.

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Whoa, those screen shots are stunning.

 

It would be nice if they made a version of the panel that could take a Mindstar G1000 if one wanted to upgrade.

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People having been saying similar for ages.. Carenado is all about wrapping 4096 textures around default functionality

 

 

hit it right on the head...   and sadly they FLOOD the hell out of the GA market so we don't see much GA in depth simulations.   

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I went on their web site and can only see exterior pics.  Will wait until I see VC pics before I start getting excited.

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I'll be buying. I can't pass up a nice looking bizjet - even if it's slow! This thing goes a little faster than the F1 Mustang at altitude.

 

I'm on the fence. Is this going to be another neutered G1000 with questionable FDE like their TBM?

 

I really hope not.... 

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Whoa, those screen shots are stunning.

 

It would be nice if they made a version of the panel that could take a Mindstar G1000 if one wanted to upgrade.

+1. But I doubt it will happen. I asked them about being able to do so in the C182T and they replied that they have zero interest. All looks, but zero brain. That's Carenado for you.

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Zero brain?  Bah!  Half a brain at least.  With Carenado you get everything except real deep systems.  Sometimes the sounds are so-so but it depends on the plane.  Price-wise I agree they are a bit expensive for what you get.  But only a few other payware planes go above and beyond what Carenado offers (Dukev2, Legacy, Flight1 KA/Mustang/C182, A2A Mustang/C172, Aerosoft Katana - ,most of those planes cost more dollars too).  Think about the other planes that basically give you the same product, or at least the same level of modelling as Carenado - there are plenty!  

 

Unfortunately GA is costly to make ultra accurate systems.  Many new GA have glass which is a nightmare to model properly.  Bizjets aren't made because their avionics are ultra powerful, usually much better than Airbus and Boeing products.  

 

Let's face it, Flight1 is the only developer to do a mostly functional G1000, and their king air is probably the most advanced GA plane to date for FSX.  I highly highly highly DOUBT we'll ever see that kind of avionics presentation from Carenado or anyone else!  PMDG/Aerosoft/QW obiviously makes some nice avionics/screens for big jets, but none of them has really made a bizjet yet.

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I think it was around the time the 182T was new a lot of people were wishing Carenado would go back to their roots of analog cockpit GA props..  The Stationair came and that was the last of analog because it was quickly offered instead with a G1000. I own it but it was the final straw for me. It was analog but it was yet another high wing Cessna but I wanted an Analog alterantive to the 182 and that was about as close you get..   I'd be happy if the Centurion FDE was finally fixed.. You still can't settle that thing down on the rear gear only.. It's 99% of the time a 3 point landing every single time. 

 

Carenados spinoff Alabeo though does some good GA analog stuff.. 

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The Stationair came and that was the last of analog because it was quickly offered instead with a G1000.

 

Carenado has since also done a very nice analog piston Malibu, with RXP integration.  Other than some mediocre sounds, it's quite nice and another welcome return to non-G1000 panels.

 

 

 


I'd be happy if the Centurion FDE was finally fixed.. You still can't settle that thing down on the rear gear only.. It's 99% of the time a 3 point landing every single time.

 

Why does this remind me of "almost always right, 99% of the time".  :-)

 

Check the Carenado 210 forum as there's actually a very simple mod to the aircraft cfg file which addresses the issue with changes to flap lift (decrease) and drag (increase) which fix this issue, as well as the ballooning that used to occur on flap extension.  If you can't find it, let me know and I'll dig up the mods from my config.  It really changed the plane for me and makes it a pleasure to fly.

 

Scott

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Zero brain? Bah! Half a brain at least. With Carenado you get everything except real deep systems. Sometimes the sounds are so-so but it depends on the plane. Price-wise I agree they are a bit expensive for what you get. But only a few other payware planes go above and beyond what Carenado offers (Dukev2, Legacy, Flight1 KA/Mustang/C182, A2A Mustang/C172, Aerosoft Katana - ,most of those planes cost more dollars too). Think about the other planes that basically give you the same product, or at least the same level of modelling as Carenado - there are plenty!

 

Unfortunately GA is costly to make ultra accurate systems. Many new GA have glass which is a nightmare to model properly. Bizjets aren't made because their avionics are ultra powerful, usually much better than Airbus and Boeing products.

 

Let's face it, Flight1 is the only developer to do a mostly functional G1000, and their king air is probably the most advanced GA plane to date for FSX. I highly highly highly DOUBT we'll ever see that kind of avionics presentation from Carenado or anyone else! PMDG/Aerosoft/QW obiviously makes some nice avionics/screens for big jets, but none of them has really made a bizjet yet.

You need to check out the MilViz King Air 350 in development.

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Carenado has since also done a very nice analog piston Malibu, with RXP integration.  Other than some mediocre sounds, it's quite nice and another welcome return to non-G1000 panels.

 

 

 

 

Why does this remind me of "almost always right, 99% of the time".  :-)

 

Check the Carenado 210 forum as there's actually a very simple mod to the aircraft cfg file which addresses the issue with changes to flap lift (decrease) and drag (increase) which fix this issue, as well as the ballooning that used to occur on flap extension.  If you can't find it, let me know and I'll dig up the mods from my config.  It really changed the plane for me and makes it a pleasure to fly.

 

Scott

 

Ooooh nice! I'll go look for that mod right now.. It just went so long with never being addressed I gave up looking awhile ago. :)

 

As far as his other stuff. It's just not my taste in GA. I own the C90 and PA46T already so there just wasn't enough deviation in the other stuff to even blink an eye at.. Too each their own. :) Glad he does what he does and especially the work Stolle put into the FDE's.. 

 

 

Edit: Just got done trying out that mod.. First approach w/ 1 notch of flaps I once again 3 point landed it.. Full power, back out.. New approach, 1 notch, and two pointed her.. I saw it's possible w/ full flaps also too so that's great! She's a very tricky bird to land because even with one notch of flaps and decent airspeed you really need to trim her out as she feels like a paper weight. B) Glad to see good flying now rewards you with a two point landing now!! Also applied the .40 on elevator effectiveness.. That helped calm her down A LOT.. Thanks!

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Carenados spinoff Alabeo though does some good GA analog stuff.. 

 

Oh yeah, they have some real nice products in the low 20's USD price range.  Their staggerwing is nice but I don't fly it much.  I'll probably get their C195 though.

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Ooooh nice! I'll go look for that mod right now.. It just went so long with never being addressed I gave up looking awhile ago. :)


As far as his other stuff. It's just not my taste in GA. I own the C90 and PA46T already so there just wasn't enough deviation in the other stuff to even blink an eye at..


it's certainly made a difference for me on the 210.  As for other planes - believe me I understand where you're coming from.  Up until the Piston Malibu I hadn't purchased anything since the C90.  Too much "same ol'" and/or incomplete G1000 implementations.

 

Scott

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I'll take anything that looks nice if it's a bizjet. There just aren't many out there to begin with.

 

I was just about to say. Why is there no love in the bizjet department? I will probably be picking this up.

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Hmmm. Maybe the Carenado is the way to go for me.

 

  • I use Plan G for flight planning and loading
  • I don't fly IFR (yet - it could be my winter project to learn the basics)
  • I hand-fly all approaches

 

Sounds like a good match for a "almost always right, 99% of the time" G1000-equipped aircraft, no?   :)


I was just about to say. Why is there no love in the bizjet department? I will probably be picking this up.

 

Yeah, I miss my Flight1 Mustang since moving to P3D 1.4 (not on V2, yet). Wasn't the fastest ship in the hanger, but was fun to fly.

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Also applied the .40 on elevator effectiveness.. That helped calm her down A LOT.. Thanks!

 

Good deal - glad it helped.  I don't make any changes in elevator effectiveness, as I think that can lead to a loss of authority in landing situations.  I deal with the somewhat sensitive elevator by using an aggressive FSUIPC curve.  That still allows me full authority when I need it, but reduces the overly touchy elevator in average flight situations.  The one other change I have made, however, is to reduce the elevator trim effectiveness a bit, making it a bit easier (albeit slower) to trim out.

 

And apologies to the OP for a bit of a thread diversion.

 

 

 


Sounds like a good match for a "almost always right, 99% of the time" G1000-equipped aircraft, no? :)

 

It might well be, given your use model.  My biggest gripes around the Carenado G1000s have to do with flight planning and modifying of flightplans during flight, lack of current navdata and lack of support for WAAS approaches which are becoming increasingly important in NA.  If you're not flying IFR, the last bit doesn't matter, but if you're planning on moving in that direction it might.

 

 

Scott

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Yeah, I miss my Flight1 Mustang since moving to P3D 1.4 (not on V2, yet). Wasn't the fastest ship in the hanger, but was fun to fly.

 

Are you not able to install into P3D? She was a great plane to fly, but as you know, the fps hit was always prohibitive in most circumstances. Never quite understood that. Show now sits in my hanger with barely a scratch on her. :(

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