Isn't a 7 PSI pressure difference awfully close to the 7.2 PSI red line?

No way to set a lower value for an increased safety margin?

 

 

 

The plane won't even reach a 7.0 psi diff until 16,800 feet. So if you're cruising below that altitude and you want to hold the sea level cabin altitude you'll be well below 7.0 psi.  If you are at that altitude and want have a lower than 7.0 psi diff then you'd have to set your cabin altitude to 1000 or 2000 feet or something. 

 

Holding a 7.0 psi differential isn't necessarily dangerous, it makes a more comfortable experience for everyone onboard as it does a better job of holding a sea level pressure (ears won't pop as much).  7.25 psi is the safety valves max diff then its automatically opened (by vacuum suction) to regulate that pressure should the automatic pressurization controller fail. 

 

Cheers!

I like this kind of input from people familiar with the real thing. Thanks!

I like this kind of input from people familiar with the real thing. Thanks!

 

No problem!

 

I actually flew today and noticed while at 16,000 feet we had around a 5.0 psi diff and our cabin altitude was at 3000 feet. Goes to show that these planes are starting to show their age! Very small leaks around the passenger and cargo door seals make it slightly harder to keep a 7.0 diff with a sea level cabin altitude. 

Hi all!

 

I've flown this aircraft for only 10 minutes and I noticed some odd things. I wanted to ask the Metroliner experts:

 

-When you activate the wiper blades the blades move over the window frame. This can't be how it works in the real aircraft, can it?

 

-Is the GPWS broken? As soon as I descend faster than ~200 fpm I get a SINK RATE message in the HSI.

 

-I get a weird green scrolling message across the screen. It looks like code.

 

-In tower view it looks like the shadow from the fuselage and windows is cast on the fuselage itself. It looks really odd. Maybe an FSX limitation?

The green scrolling text is a bug if the WX radar is on

 

I also get the stupid sink rate msg

 

I shelves this plane cause I also have the comm bug

Thanks everyone for their help. The info was very helpful! Still not getting the glide slope but i'll keep playing around with it. Do I need to have approach mode activated on the AP to get the ILS? Read the manual a few times. This time put the ILS freq in Nav 1. Manual says click ADF until ILS appears but haven't seen it. Thanks for any info!

 

Enjoy this little plane. Bumpy as all get out though. Fun to fly!

On the Razbam metroliner, the ILS is tied to the NAV2 receiver by default. Alternatively if the ILS is in NAV1, press the DG button (the HSI will then track NAV2).

 

To put the HSI into ILS mode, press the HSI or ARC (not ADF) button until you get the ILS display - a pair of blue cross-hairs that give both LOC and GS information. 

 

If you want a less idiosyncratic EHSI, you can always install my mod referenced several pages back in this thread.  Puts in a more realistic EGPWS, too.

 

Ryan, the comm bug is due to an incorrect initialization and is easy to fix: use the ATC menu to tune the radios to a valid frequency, then you will be able to increment/decrement the frequency correctly.

On the Razbam metroliner, the ILS is tied to the NAV2 receiver by default. Alternatively if the ILS is in NAV1, press the DG button (the HSI will then track NAV2).

 

To put the HSI into ILS mode, press the HSI or ARC (not ADF) button until you get the ILS display - a pair of blue cross-hairs that give both LOC and GS information. 

 

If you want a less idiosyncratic EHSI, you can always install my mod referenced several pages back in this thread.  Puts in a more realistic EGPWS, too.

 

Ryan, the comm bug is due to an incorrect initialization and is easy to fix: use the ATC menu to tune the radios to a valid frequency, then you will be able to increment/decrement the frequency correctly.

 

Thanks Izamm! I will try your suggestion and if I still have trouble will grab your mod. 

 

Thanks again!

 

 

Ryan, the comm bug is due to an incorrect initialization and is easy to fix: use the ATC menu to tune the radios to a valid frequency, then you will be able to increment/decrement the frequency correctly.

Yeah I saw this but the fix is not working.  I tried starting with a plane that uses the GTN750 and tuned off of it, then switch into the Metro and the frequency changes to the wrong one again...  

 

I'll just keep playing with it.  Makes it impossible to fly online.

 

As for the ILS localizer needle... yes I was really surprised to see it modeled on NAV2!

 

I totally agree, I am thinking perhaps they don't have a big advertising budget? It is a shame because this product deserves more recognition!

 

 

Did you receive anything from Razbam for your videos?

 

I bought the Metroliner as a Beta customer, I had a lot of issues with access to Razbams store, which after weeks of pleading via email was finally addressed - I could finally download my purchase. After install there were problems with the aircraft that carried right through to the release aircraft. Numerous emails, forums posts by myself and others, have gone unanswered. Customer frustration and lack of support is evident in the Forums. A reply from one of the moderators "there are only two of us and so many hours in the day...." doesn't install confidence in their business model, or their ability to fix the issues that have surfaced.  Razbam needs to get over their addiction to Facebook of entering progress and updates on yet to be released aircraft and concentrate on providing support to those of us, who. in good faith, purchased  a product that has been released but not fixed. I have second thoughts on buying any more Razbam aircraft after the way they treat their customers.

 

steve

 

I too had the Beta version, and all of these issues were present before release, but none of the issues were ever addressed. I still like it. It does fly very nicely, especially, as Jon mentioned without the AP. I love looking out over that long nose.

Overpriced? maybe, but look at the price of PMDG 777 (and I know this is not in the same quality). This is nowhere near that price, and as mentioned a few posts previously, even they are having issues with that. It seems that like everything today, the price goes up and up. When (if?) these bugs are corrected, this will be one of the better short haulers available.

 

- Roger

 

 

Sounds like there was never any interest in getting the airplane fixed in the first place.

 

In my opinion, I think Razbam has too many projects in the fire at once. You have the Metro service pack, which is taking forever, the EMB120 that is supposed to be their next release, the Saab 340, and now the ATR has started development. That's 4 huge projects going on at the same time. It's no wonder they never respond to people in the forums. Not a good move IMHO. That being said, I want Razbam to succeed because I am enjoying the Metro. I would prefer an analog HSI and a blank spot for my Mindstar GNS430 (or RXP).

Todd

 

It looks like he is working on about 10 different projects now.

 

My review in another forum from back when I bought it (and before modding it):

 

"Forgive me, lord of freeware (i.e. me, huehuehuehuehue) for I have sinned.

The RAZBAM Metroliner was on sale for $20. And I bought it. 

I'm still a bit on the fence on how I feel about it though. From a logical standpoint, for the 14.5€ I've spent, it wasn't a bad purchase, especially considering that it's only a very small reimbursement for the amount of work contained in that rendition of the "San Antonio sewer pipe".
But I never could warrant spending the regular price on it. The visual model is top notch, the cockpit is complete, the sounds are okay and the FDE is great. Systems-wise, however, you can click all the switches and pull the circuit breakers and get visual feedback but only a small fraction actually influences the underlying MSFS systems simulation. On the other hand, SP1 brought stuff like start locks, overtemp and overtorque with it, which shows that deciding not to do too much systems related stuff was subject to time, availability and mass appeal constraints and not deliberate negligience.
Sure, broken down on "€ per man-hour" of work invested, this is still cheaper than most of the stuff you can buy in the real world, but if you can get 80% of the featureset, polycount, texture detail, clickable switches, FDE accuracy and the same amount of systems modeling for free, 50€ is grossly overpriced.

There is, however, another thing about this model that is buried beneath the "end-user" level: It's honest. No activation BS, no C++-coded .gau or .dll gauges, one effect file, one .dll for the interaction between payload manager and FSX, two gauges and everything runs in the confines of FSX. Nothing else.
The extra .dll is a bit of a tripwire as it requires an entry in the dll.xml and a correctly working path to make the payload manager work as intended, but other than that, nada.
And XML gauges are always editable. And switch code can be read out by ModelConverterX. Which means that anyone can enhance systems modeling as long as there is a bit of knowledge in XML scripting and the systems of the Metro. And, time permitting, I'm going to do just that (here and there).

So considering this, I did not buy an airplane, but a nice turboprop-powered systems modeling experimentation lab. For 14.5€ I think can definitely live with that.

I won't go to freeware heaven anytime soon though."

 

 

If you are OK with moding a payware aircraft I think $10 or $15 is a fair price.

 

If you don't want to mod a payware aircraft then the money could have went towards a better aircraft.

 

However, I feel very sorry for whoever payed full price for this.

 

I don't understand is how this developer can price this add-on at $50 USD or $70 USD, barely fix anything, and then feel good about themselves.

 

Sure, there are worse add-ons out there, but that doesn't make it good!

 

When I initially downloaded the aircraft I wanted to make sure the exe file worked. I opened it to make sure it worked, and the picture of the Metroliner in the installer was distorted. I wanted to exit the installer to install later. I clicked cancel, and Razbam's installer crashed. At that point I had a sinking feeling that I was getting crap.

 

 

-Kirk Johnson

Definitely some known issues, but I really enjoy flying her.... I didn't pay full price, as $50-70 is high for this as is, but $15-20 is ok.  Curious if this is still being worked on at all though, and would play into buying any of their future models.  Seems their other stuff is military, which I rarely buy, so unfamiliar.

Regardless of whatever bugs still exist, with Bjoern's and lzamm's excellent mods (thanks a million!!!), the Metroliner is a great little aircraft. Like be77solo, I also really enjoy flying it.

Razbam is on hiatus, so any further updates are as unlikely as they have been since SP1.

 

 

Source:

https://www.facebook.com/RazbamSims/posts/947759441977361

So nothing new really...

Really enjoying this little plane. Can't decide if I like it or the Aerosoft Twin Otter better, but both are alot of fun. Started of with the big jets but since getting these little turbo props that's all I fly.