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I can't fly my Q400

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OK, I hold my hands up... I still can't fly the Majestic Q400 properly. I can get her up and running from C&D but still need to spend some more time reading the manual about programming the FMC and associated stuff. But that's not my problem, the problem is actually handling this girl. I don't quite know what the issue is, but for some reason, regardless of how I have the controllers set up in FSUIPC, the plane always feels like I'm trying to keep a soggy wet slab of lard on an overinflated life raft!! She floats this way and floats that way, as well as ballooning up and down, it doesn't feel very realistic at all. Does anyone else have this problem? Or can someone point me in the right direction. I'd like to get to the bottom of what the issue is, if in fact there is one, as apart from this problem I really love the plane. Cheers...

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Under[CONTROLS] add stick_sensitivity_mode=0

 

Worked for my PMDG NGX together with sensitivity to max and dead zone to 0 (on ailerons and elevators)

 

Don't know if it is the same case but You may try it. No fsuipc here.

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Under[CONTROLS] add stick_sensitivity_mode=0

 

Worked for my PMDG NGX together with sensitivity to max and dead zone to 0 (on ailerons and elevators)

 

Don't know if it is the same case but You may try it. No fsuipc here.

 

Hi Mephic, to be fair, the issue is nothing to do with the actual stick sensitivity, but more with the way the aircraft seems to balloon and float everywhere. I'll try your suggestion, thanks. Although

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I don't quite know what the issue is, but for some reason, regardless of how I have the controllers set up in FSUIPC, the plane always feels like I'm trying to keep a soggy wet slab of lard on an overinflated life raft!!

 

LOL!!  I'm sorry, I'm really of no help to you as I'm not flying that aircraft, but I just loved that analogy!! :rofl:  Thanks for the late night laugh. 
Hope you get things worked out.

 

Cheers.  

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Oh, I thought that You meant during steering.. And yes, analogy is cool :D

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Hi Mephic, to be fair, the issue is nothing to do with the actual stick sensitivity, but more with the way the aircraft seems to balloon and float everywhere. I'll try your suggestion, thanks. Although

Check this video out its long and hopefully it should should teach you on how everything works, if it doesn't than there could be some thing wrong at your end hopefully not

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjSJveYgAMc

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Hi Howard,

 

I know exactly what you're on about but have no solution. It's such an excellent aircraft but the one thing that ruins it for me is when the aircraft will just suddenly stop either mid taxi or in the air for a second and then carry on as normal about a second later.

 

Gavin

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Well, none of the above has happened to me? I am even using AccuFeel with it, and ASN as weather injector. 

 

I confess I feared finding some weird behaviour due to the fact that it runs it's FDE externally, but no poblem at all.

 

There is only one thing that comes to my mind, and I hate to even suggest it because FSUIPC is such a great application, but on my last FSX install I left FSUIPC out. For one it caused problems with ASN, and also I have a very basic controller setup.

 

Could in any way those effects, that I have seen reported by other users, be related to the use of FSUIPC?

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I don't know if it will help, but have you calibrated your controllers via the majestic control panel too? 

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Check this video out its long and hopefully it should should teach you on how everything works, if it doesn't than there could be some thing wrong at your end hopefully not

 

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjSJveYgAMc

Thanks Peter, I'll check the vid out, appreciated.

 

 

Hi Howard,

 

I know exactly what you're on about but have no solution. It's such an excellent aircraft but the one thing that ruins it for me is when the aircraft will just suddenly stop either mid taxi or in the air for a second and then carry on as normal about a second later.

 

Gavin

Gavin, if you have autosave ticked in FSUIPC, that will cause the pausing you are talking about :wink:

 

 

Well, none of the above has happened to me? I am even using AccuFeel with it, and ASN as weather injector. 

 

I confess I feared finding some weird behaviour due to the fact that it runs it's FDE externally, but no poblem at all.

 

There is only one thing that comes to my mind, and I hate to even suggest it because FSUIPC is such a great application, but on my last FSX install I left FSUIPC out. For one it caused problems with ASN, and also I have a very basic controller setup.

 

Could in any way those effects, that I have seen reported by other users, be related to the use of FSUIPC?

FSX, without FSUIPC, hmm. Maybe I could remove the folder and see how it performs I guess, thanks matey...

 

 

I don't know if it will help, but have you calibrated your controllers via the majestic control panel too? 

Sure, all the calibration has been carried out, again and again. Thanks Kim...

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Howard iam using  asn and got fsuipc  and having no issues with the  q400, I got  the wind smoothing  unchecked in the wind section

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Howard ,can you uncheck FSUIC to make sure 100% its not the problem

 

Next I would remove any type of ENB stuff, it can cause some bizarre issues

 

After that I would uncheck any weather eg ASN or OPUS

 

Get as close to vanilla regarding add ons as you can

 

And then try again

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Hello Howard,

 

As far as floating is concerned, this aircraft floats 'naturally' immediately after take-off, before the autopilot is engaged. This floating (to the left) is a result of prop wash, and should be compensated with right rudder. While you are in the 'training' phase this can be difficult. What I did was turning the propwash off (in the Q400 ini file) for the time being. But maybe I'm kicking in an already open door. I don't have an explanation for the ballooning.

 

Kind regards,

René

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Howard iam using  asn and got fsuipc  and having no issues with the  q400, I got  the wind smoothing  unchecked in the wind section

 

I'll check that Pete, thanks...

 

 

Howard ,can you uncheck FSUIC to make sure 100% its not the problem

 

Next I would remove any type of ENB stuff, it can cause some bizarre issues

 

After that I would uncheck any weather eg ASN or OPUS

 

Get as close to vanilla regarding add ons as you can

 

And then try again

Will do, cheers...

 

 

What I did was turning the propwash off (in the Q400 ini file) for the time being. But maybe I'm kicking in an already open door. I don't have an explanation for the ballooning.

 

Kind regards,

René

I'll try that too René, thanks...

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What I did was turning the propwash off (in the Q400 ini file) for the time being.

 

Well Rene, that seems to have cured my problem... many thanks for your help. Thanks to everyone else too for your advice, appreciated.

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Gavin, if you have autosave ticked in FSUIPC, that will cause the pausing you are talking about :wink:

 

Cheers Howard that sorted it a treat!

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But, the propwash effects are what make this aircraft so much more plausible / unique  to fly in FSX .... :(

 

There is still, IMO, way too much rolling moment due to prop effects, but the yaw is perfect, and the fact that roll spoilers are used for turns makes it even more realistic when you're in a turn, not requiring that much rudder input to stay coordinated.

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But, the propwash effects are what make this aircraft so much more plausible / unique  to fly in FSX .... :(

 

There is still, IMO, way too much rolling moment due to prop effects

That's the issue which I find spoils my flights in this bird... it may be trying to simulate the real Q400, but for me, it seems to be overdone somehow.

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Well Rene, that seems to have cured my problem... many thanks for your help. Thanks to everyone else too for your advice, appreciated.

 

Howard  tried  looking for the prop wash to turn off to see if it makes any difference,  but  cant seem to find it  any where probably  why its not effecting me lol,  what section is it under I looked under  the ini file  and the cfg  file  in the q400 but  didn't  see it.  Maybe I need to use glasses

 

Think I found  is it called Yaw_Due_to_propwash  and I take it  you change the 1  to a 0

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Howard  tried  looking for the prop wash to turn off to see if it makes any difference,  but  cant seem to find it  any where probably  why its not effecting me lol,  what section is it under I looked under  the ini file  and the cfg  file  in the q400 but  didn't  see it.  Maybe I need to use glasses

 

Think I found  is it called Yaw_Due_to_propwash  and I take it  you change the 1  to a 0

 

Hi Pete, sure, I can't remember exactly, only that it was in the ini file, but as you say, it was under something like Yaw_Due_to_propwash. Let us know if that works...

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Hi Rockliffe,

    May I ask which version of the Q400 are you using? A few people have complained about the sensitivity of the Q400 v1.008. Majestic implemented a patch for turbulence in this version, thus the increased sensitivity. They have since released a hotfix for this issue. There is an option in the new .ini file to adjust the turbulence effects. I hope this sheds some light on your issues.

  Cheers, Craig.

ps, I am not associated with Majestic.

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Hi Rockliffe,

    May I ask which version of the Q400 are you using? A few people have complained about the sensitivity of the Q400 v1.008. Majestic implemented a patch for turbulence in this version, thus the increased sensitivity. They have since released a hotfix for this issue. There is an option in the new .ini file to adjust the turbulence effects. I hope this sheds some light on your issues.

  Cheers, Craig.

ps, I am not associated with Majestic.

 

Hi, sure, it's the latest release that's supposed to include turbulence effects, but I haven't experienced any! I'll check out the ini file and see if I can adjust things, 'cos even though the prop wash effect has gone, I don't know, it just feels 'unattached' somehow to the air. That probably doesn't make sense, but it's the best way I can describe things. It feels like I'm trying to fly a big bed mattress around the sky!!!

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Howard its strange that your not getting the turbulence effect, only thin I can think of is the weather engine your using?

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