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I kind of figured they would do this and make money in the store that comes with it. I beta tested it and their is nothing wrong with it. Performed well and has that start menu back in place. 

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You can also view the latest news directly from the Window blog: http://blogs.windows.com/bloggingwindows/2015/01/21/the-next-generation-of-windows-windows-10/?OCID=ANNOUNCEMENTS_SOC_FB_ORGANIC_W10BLOG&linkId=11873473

 

There's some rather impressive stuff in Microsoft's/Windows's future by the looks of it. Exciting times! HoloLens looks especially interesting.

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I hope there's some intrepid gamers out there willing to test drive WIN10 for us. After the WIN8/8.1 fiasco, there's no telling what WIN10 will do to FSX, Steam, P3D, and all the associated add-ons which tap into WIN services. With release next week, perhaps it's time for AVSIM to spin up the WIN10 Forum. And also check how AVSIM site functionality holds up under Spartan, the new web browser replacing IE. Hope springs eternal that most everything will go swimmingly!

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When I tested it in the first beta FSX and other stuff performed extremely well but this was because Windows10 at that time was a 4gb installer. The final release will have a lot more fat on it.

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. With release next week, perhaps it's time for AVSIM to spin up the WIN10 Forum.

Wouldn't it be better for them to just make one subforum, and use tags for different posts (kinda like FSX forum with tags for either FSX SE or FSX original)?

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It makes sense,

Microsoft seem to have learned that it is difficult to move users from a platform that works great (XP) and see this as a way to not have the same thing happen with Win7 (which also works great)

 

Hopefully the old rule that every other Windows version is a good one holds true with Windows 10

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The bottom line for me is - why should I go to Win10?  What makes it worthwhile?  What does it offer that I don't already have?  I couldn't care less about mobile apps from MS, I'm already on Android on multiple devices.  Seems to me that they are late to the party.

 

DJ

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As above.  I have everything FS wise running nicely in Win 7.  Why on earth would I want to mess with that?  But an interesting post from the OP all the same.  Thanks.

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When I tested it in the first beta FSX and other stuff performed extremely well but this was because Windows10 at that time was a 4gb installer. The final release will have a lot more fat on it.

Well, you have a year to get the free upgrade from W7...so, I think that I will sit in the bush..and see how it goes per flight sim interests.  It sounds great...and if there are no 'this does not work..or that won't fire up' issues, I'll give it a go. I'm glad that Microsoft is still around...and producing. I have to tell you though...I still like XP...and think it was the best edition of Windows ever. It worked...and was not bloated to death.  No wonder they had to kill the sucker off.....

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I have read that DX12 will not be supported on W7...that's a pretty big reason for gamers and potentially (down the line) for P3D's to upgrade.

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The bottom line for me is - why should I go to Win10?  What makes it worthwhile?  What does it offer that I don't already have?  I couldn't care less about mobile apps from MS, I'm already on Android on multiple devices.  Seems to me that they are late to the party.

 

DJ

 

 

As above.  I have everything FS wise running nicely in Win 7.  Why on earth would I want to mess with that?  But an interesting post from the OP all the same.  Thanks.

 

All you're doing by staying back is making it harder for us addon and software developers to move forward. As the operating system matures, new development techniques and such make for better products (not just in the flight sim world, but in the software world as a whole). Older versions of Windows will slowly hold things back over time if people don't upgrade. One unified platform makes relying on dependencies (.NET, Visual C++ Redistributables, DirectX, and even something simple like fonts) so much easier. This is one reason that Windows XP is not supported by many anymore.

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All you're doing by staying back is making it harder for us addon and software developers to move forward. As the operating system matures, new development techniques and such make for better products (not just in the flight sim world, but in the software world as a whole). Older versions of Windows will slowly hold things back over time if people don't upgrade. One unified platform makes relying on dependencies (.NET, Visual C++ Redistributables, DirectX, and even something simple like fonts) so much easier. This is one reason that Windows XP is not supported by many anymore.

 

I'm so sorry Brandon - I don't feel that it's my duty to make life easy for add-on and software devs by moving to a new operating system every time MS or any other core system developer feels moved to attempt to exploit new marketing directions.  I spent 40+ years as a software and systems developer in the MS and UNIX world and don't really give a hoot how 'difficult' things are for developers - I know better.  If developers want my coin they will develop to my particular desires and habits and I will buy or not as the spirit moves me - if they do not, then we can clearly do without each other.

 

DJ

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All you're doing by staying back is making it harder for us addon and software developers to move forward.

 

That is a very good point.

W10 is way too ugly for me to spend money on, but for free and as a dual boot to run my sim on then why not.

I will certainly give it a go.

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I wonder if "by upgrading" you have to renounce your Windows 7 license.

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Though I don't think W10 is ugly (I like the modern UI), I can personally attest to Brandon's comment about holding developers back. There are so many cool, new, integrated features in the newer OS's that we have to ignore due to backward compatibility. I can't wait to play around with some of these things once we get past the age of the aero desktop.

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 I can't wait to play around with some of these things once we get past the age of the aero desktop.

 

Not going to happen in the near future, I know a lot of corporate networks still imaging XP on machines due to the fact that their applications wont run on newer equipment.

 

Windows 7 will be around until you simply cannot find licenses for it.

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Not going to happen in the near future, I know a lot of corporate networks still imaging XP on machines due to the fact that their applications wont run on newer equipment.

 

Windows 7 will be around until you simply cannot find licenses for it.

Oh, I know it. Still an exciting thing to think about. Also kind of scary that there are so many companies potentially losing money and productivity by under-utilizing modern technology.

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On one hand I could see why it would be free - so they can have as many users on their new platform as possible and kill off their older OS versions very quickly, getting rid of the need to support these anymore and putting them up to task to take on Google etc. They want to be the dominant force for tablets and smartphones etc.

 

On the other hand, "just because it's free doesn't mean there's not a price to pay". What is that price? Every new release of Windows nets them probably a few billion in sales? I know they have a lot of money, but leaving this much on the table seems so unlike MS. Will I find out too late I made the wrong choice going with a freebie OS? Are we going to  get advertisements on our desktop to fund this or.....

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We will see what windows 10 about, but it better run fsx like windows 7 does before all used it. Wait a while no need change over unless forced to play games.

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All you're doing by staying back is making it harder for us addon and software developers to move forward. As the operating system matures, new development techniques and such make for better products (not just in the flight sim world, but in the software world as a whole). Older versions of Windows will slowly hold things back over time if people don't upgrade. One unified platform makes relying on dependencies (.NET, Visual C++ Redistributables, DirectX, and even something simple like fonts) so much easier. This is one reason that Windows XP is not supported by many anymore.

Interesting. Hadn't thought about that. But then again when I buy something and, eventually get it working, I'm really not that interested in starting the process all over again. I bought FSX and several addons to sim. Not to tweak and test. I understand how you feel though.

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This has really brought out the 'Nay Sayers' yet again...

What is it with this hobby of ours that we too often see guys trying to justify staying backwards!!

 

We see.. " I'm happy with .. FS2004/FX/FS/Windows XP/Windows 7/Windows 8.1... (fill in whatever), why should I change to ............ (fill in the gaps).

 

Is it only within this hobby of ours where guys blow their trumpets & tell us that they will not move forward, & try to justify it?

 

For goodness sake, stay behind, stick to your whatever, &...

Who the h_ll actually cares when a some random guy wants to stay behind, & stands on his soap box & proclaims to the world?

Stick to your FSX/FSX:Steam & other 8 year old games, outdated OS's etc..

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Aint no such thing as a free lunch!

 

how long is the lifetime of the device????? I make it more than 5 years  do you think they will still release updates for it in 20 years ? i dont think so! after all this is M.S. we are talking about .

I also wish they would write their blogs in english not bablespeak

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They know what they are doing. There are no new CPU's in the pipelines to back them up and for the near future but they need to put behind Window 8 asap, After the year of releasing Windows 10, new computers will ship with it anyhow and people will have to pay for it. Maybe Mr Gates is lurking around cause it reminds me of IE introduction.

 

No new CPU no new Desktop and ergo no Win10. But I have a Laptop with Win7. It might get it for kicks and giggles.

 

Cheers,

 

 

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